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Celebrating Christmas is an Insult to Christ

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by procyon, Dec 12, 2005.

  1. Ed Edwards

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    [​IMG] Merry Christmas [​IMG] brother BobRyan.

    May God's best blessing be unto you,
    your family, and your ministry this very day:
    Christmas Day, 2005. May this be done so that
    we might give all the more honor and glory
    unto our blessed Lord and Savior: Messiah Yeshua.
    Amen!
     
  2. hillclimber

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    We picked an arbitraty day to homor our Presidents. And we picked an arbitrary day to shine the light on Jesus before the world.

    God bless us all, this wondrous day. Merry Christmas.
     
  3. Bunyon

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    Hillclimber, Just in the interest of FYI. Dec 25, is not an arbitrary day. I has pagan origins. But, That does not stop me for doing Christmas. Merry Christmas!
     
  4. gb93433

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    Jesus and Paul preached in the synagogue. Does that mean you should too?
     
  5. Ed Edwards

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    [​IMG] Merry Christmas [​IMG] Brother Hillclimber

    I hope the Spirit of Christ will be yours
    in a special way this High And Holy Day when
    we Celebrate the Birth of the Savior:
    Messiah Yeshua - 25 Dec in the Year of
    Our Lord, 2005.

    Romans 8:9 (KJV1611 Edition):

    But ye are not in the flesh, but in the spirit,
    if so be that the spirit of God dwell
    in you. Now if any man haue not
    the spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
     
  6. Paul of Eugene

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    Break out the manger scenes! Tell everybody Jesus is the reason for the season!

    Try to to smirk to much at bah humbug people who say you are dishonoring Christ while doing this. Jesus even loves them, you know . . .
     
  7. Linda64

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    Sure, Christmas had pagan origins and December 25th was not the date of His birth. What I am seeing as I read these posts is a focus on the paganism of the Christmas origins, customs, and traditions. Customs and traditions have their place, but that is not the reason for Christmas. Our focus needs to be on CHRIST alone.

    The problem some have with Christmas is that they leave Jesus Christ as a babe in the manger--but the story doesn't end in the manger--He died on the cross, was buried, and rose victoriously on the third day, Hallelujah!! Jesus Christ is the RISEN LORD OF GLORY and He is coming again!! MARANATHA!! PRAISE THE LORD!!

    Remember, without the INCARNATION there would be NO SALVATION--

    And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: (Luke 1:30-32)

    And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn. And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. (Luke 2:7-11)

    But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. (Matthew 1:20-21)

    And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. (John 1:14)

    The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. (John 1:29)

    For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

    So quit with the humbug spirit--celebrate CHRIST as the shepherds did--and not only during the Christmas season, but each and every day.

    BTW--MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!! [​IMG]
     
  8. procyon

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    Thanks, Linda, good point. I celebrate the Incarnation, and my focus is on CHRIST ALONE. It is just that the worldly celebration of 'Christmas' [Santa Claus, carols, Xmas tree, decorations, stars, and a lot of other sentimentality and commercialism] tends to cut out our Saviour Jesus, the living Lord, the Risen Christ.
     
  9. hillclimber

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    I don't care. Again God can and does make Good come from evil.
    Merry Christmas to you.
     
  10. procyon

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    Hillclimber,
    Just a word about 'hills'. During the days of the reformist kings of Judah, the 'high places' were not taken away [at least until the days of Josiah]. What do these high places refer to? Ancient religous observances used to take place on the hill-tops. Easter sunrise service is one; and 'Christmas' is another. These are part of the pagan worship in 'high places'.

    Thought I should illuminate dark minds on the subject.
     
  11. Born Again Catholic

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    The actual date of Jesus' birth may not be known for sure but celbrating the different seasons of the Church is just another way to participate and study the Gospel. throughout the year.

    Think of it as a group Bible Study if you want where as as a community we reflect on different aspects of the Gospel and worship and give thanks to God.

    Here are a few seasons many participate in

    Advent- Participation in advent should help you understand the longing for the Messiah and as Christian remind us of our longing for his return and how we are preparing for it.

    Christmas Time- We honor Jesus's coming in to the world and his presentation at the temple.

    Epiphany- We remember the gentiles ( the magi) who came to honor him with gifts and Jesus move into Egypt.

    Lent -We prepare ourselves for forty days contemplating what Jesus is willing to do for us on the cross.

    Holy Week- We focus on the events which took place in the days before Jesus' sacrifice.

    Easter- Jesus' resurection from the dead.

    Pentecost- The birthday of the Church when they holy spirit descended upon the apostles and Mary like tongues of fire.

    Ordinary Time- We focus on the teachings of Jesus during his ministry
     
  12. hopefullyhelping

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    I enjoyed going to church last night on Christmas that fell on a Sunday after working all day. I work in an inhouse rehabilitation facility for addiction, we had spiritual hour yesterday and the clients and I sat and listed our spiritual gratefuls, while the celebration of Christmas may have pagan origins, I believe it is up to each individual to bring the birth of Christ into the season. Even though Christ was not born on December 25th setting aside a day to celebrate Jesus Christs birth I believe is very important, it is not an evil celebration, like everything else in life it is what we ourselves put into it that makes it spiritual or commercial. I do know that I am grateful to have worked yesterday with people who have had some incredibly horrid things happen to them in their lives and to hear them list their gratitude at the birth of Christ to save them and to help them recover and have a normal life is something that is in no way wrong. Being there and listening to them say what God has helped them with in their lives today and how many of them would have been dead or caused the death of someone else had God not saved them had all of them and myself included in tears when we were done, it was truly the highlight of my Christmas. Again at Christmas it is up to us to make it revolve around God and the birth of Jesus. Merry Christmas to all
     
  13. gb93433

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    Sunday throught Saturday has pagan origins but I have not seen anyone quit using them.
     
  14. Ed Edwards

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    To get away from our heathen
    day-of-the-week roots, I propose we name the
    days of the weeks after the first 7 deacons:

    Act 6:5 And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Steuen, a man full of faith and of the holy Ghost, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Permenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch.

    1. Steven
    2. Philip
    3. Prochorus
    4. Nicanor
    5. Timon
    6. Permeanas
    7. Nicolas

    Of the ones other than Steven (the first Christian
    martyr) and Philip (the Evangelist) we know
    little about these men. But we can borrow
    their names for the days of the week.

    I'm so glad I have Philip off worth this week.
     
  15. Ed Edwards

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    Amen, Sister tamborine lady - you are so RIGHT ON [​IMG]
     
  16. Jim1999

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    A little common sense goes a long way. Thank you.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  17. Rev. Lowery

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    Nothing about His gospel from heaven? Christian faith, ituttut
     
  19. Alexander

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    I wonder why so many people think that Jesus wasn't born in December.

    The Scripture teaches clearly in Luke that the angel Gabriel went to Mary in the 6th month to announce that our Lord would be conceived in her womb. Mary accepted this and Incarnation occurred then. 'The 6th month' is a way of saying 'the 6th month of the year.' Since the Jewish New Year begins in September (approximately - since the Jewish calendar is lunar it varies a bit but the Jewish New Year is typically somewhere between mid-September and early October), we can count 6 months into the New Year - which would put Gabriel's annunciation sometime in late March. Then count 9 months forward from there (the length of a full-term pregnancy), and we arrive in mid- to late-December.

    Sounds to me like we know fairly accurately that Jesus was, in fact, born in late December.

    Alexander
     
  20. gb93433

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    Sure glad we have gotten past the Puritans for doing away with Christmas for about 200 years.

    One thing about Christmas it does force families to get together and talk.
     
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