Two Disparate Rule Books

Never heard, seen or understood? Again you distort the Word of God to fit your Deterministic systematic presuppositions:

Rom 1:18-21

(18) For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

(19) Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

(20) For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

(21) Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Sorry, but perhaps you need to try a little context because you seem to be a pretty messed up servants of Christ and steward of the mysteries of God:

1Co 4:1-13 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God. (2) Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful. (3) But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. (4) For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord. (5) Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. (6) And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another. (7) For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it? (8) Now ye are full, now ye are rich, ye have reigned as kings without us: and I would to God ye did reign, that we also might reign with you. (9) For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men. (10) We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised. (11) Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace; (12) And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it: (13) Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.

Having been freed, you abuse the power of the Gospel and you gain nothing :

1Co 9:16-19 For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel! (17) For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me. (18) What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel. (19) For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.

So much for the Holy Spirit’s various gifts to Christians as servants of Christ and being a good steward of the Gospel, instead it seems you become jealous or arrogant over other Christians who speak of the power of God’s love while you deny the abilities of the gift of faith for all onto salvation.

1Th 1:5? Is Paul saying that Calvinist are a special elect class which is predetermined, limited and differentiated from a non-elect class? No, just another presupposition of yours.

James 1:17? Back up, for a little context about true ability, the point you blindly miss and cast aside in the argument that is developing is that temptation comes from within man, and not from God.

Jas 1:13-16 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: (14) But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. (15) Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. (16) Do not err, my beloved brethren.

Right after you explain how and why a God who is Only Good, in which no evil came come from Him, and that tempts no man to do evil, created men to be only evil with no chance and no hope so that He could hate them and make them suffer for eternity.

...and if you wouldn't mind, explain to me again why you are so enthusiastic about telling people God's doesn't love most who He created. Seems to be a little problem for you there...

 

Direct deposit without people's permission or agreement...don't think so. But the point of my analogy was just because something is required to do something by no mean can be said what they did was substantially of the REAL thing. God didn't direct deposit the ROD into Moses hand and tell him to stretch it out over the Red Sea. It was however an expression of faith that God gave him the instruction AND HE OBEYED. The substantial REAL thing was God and God alone split the Red Sea that is as far as power is concerned he did the whole thing.

But lift thou up thy rod, and stretch out thine hand over the sea, and divide it: and the children of Israel shall go on dry ground through the midst of the sea. Exodus 14:16

Language can be used to say however that Moses split the Red Sea as word probably spread of the event. And such language can be used without everybody taking a fit. People who actually saw it would know it was all God and his power which did it. Likewise when Peter says in Acts 2:40 for people to save themselves from the corrupt generation, it was with the understanding that God is requiring expressions of faith and believing AND THEN he'd release salvation.