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Remaining Roman Catholic

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Earth Wind and Fire, Sep 2, 2018.

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  1. utilyan

    utilyan Well-Known Member
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    Thank you Yeshua, I think if your good conscience says to fight the catholic faith, that is a very honorable act however misplaced.


    Lets presume for a moment you were correct. For everyone else to spread what is false shouldn't be a surprise at all. And your personal correction of others would be impossible.

    According to your theology there is NOTHING neither YOU or I can do to BETTER or WORSEN or affect the others SALVATION or UNDERSTANDING of the Gospel

    Because unless a person has received their mystical experience with God. By which their GNOSTIC super powers have been activated by the initial regeneration, they will not understand the gospel.


    A Catholic who attends Sunday worship will HEAR the entire bible within 3 years.

    A Catholic who attends Sunday and daily worship will HEAR the entire bible within 1 year.

    The homilies floating around the gospel would be insignificant no matter how totally wrong they are.

    They would still be HEARING THE GOSPEL. Which is a heavy factor for the probability of God initiating the regeneration.



    IF the tables were turned. And I was the Calvinist and you guys non-Calvinist.

    The ONLY #1 thing I could do make sure I present the MINIMUM REQUIREMENT of the GOSPEL, Be assured you HEARD the whole thing, even if you didn't agree or understand it.

    After that there is no debating, I would be praying to God.

    And beg God to regenerate and enlighten you so you could receive your Magical GNOSTIC understanding.



    ^Tell me what I would be doing wrong as a Calvinist.


    In fact globally your only concern would be that person at the bare minimum HEARS THE GOSPEL.


    What is the magical formula of "hearing the Gospel"?

    Is it John 3:16? is it Romans? Is it the gopsel of mark? all the gospel? Genesis to Revelations?

    What is the bare minimum?
     
  2. utilyan

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    "Popery is as much the masterpiece of Satan as the gospel is the masterpiece of God. "

    Its common for Gnostics to believe dualities attribute Satan with Equal divine power.


    I think you give the devil way too much credit. Its not like the devil has a job at all being that all are TOTALLY DEPRAVED, " It is GOD's evil duality's masterpiece. "

    Even you served the devil prior to your Gnostic enlightenment and regeneration.

    Its amazing lack of humility that you believe yourself chosen supreme and still entertain your spitefulness of catholic who was as powerless as you before your Gnostic regeneration and enlightenment.
     
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    What does Paul say about anyone, or any church, that tyeaches another Gospel?
     
  4. Yeshua1

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    The Papacy is a man made myth, created to make sure people stay blind and walking in the dark and in fear to Mother Church.
     
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    Wesley Briggman Well-Known Member
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    My post was in regards to
    I did not express my point of view, just posted quotes from C. Spurgeon to give a time frame. To pursue your charges against me, you need to start a new thread since it has no relationship to the OP.

    Have a great day.
     
  6. Yeshua1

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    Ah, Spurgeon, the greatest Baptist of us all!
     
  7. utilyan

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    You saying a direct citation of the bible is not the gospel?
     
  8. Yeshua1

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    The scripture is, but the understanding of the Gospel by Rome is not!
     
  9. utilyan

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    The understanding doesn't matter. A person just needs to hear the gospel and only God can provide the regeneration and gnostic understanding.

    As is the current claim is if you are not elect you don't understand the gospel and you can't do anything good.
     
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    What is the Baptist answer to this question?
     
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    You are full of prunes.
     
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    If you don't adhere to one thing and one thing only as regards the Christian experience, you do not have the correct gospel. Our friend here only has Jesus in a book, we have Him in the flesh.
     
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    ".What if your child dies in infancy w/o being baptised, where is the child? With RC and Orthodox Presbyterianism (reformed church) you can pretty much guess the answer."

    Don't ask a Nazi about what Jews believe.
     
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    An observation based on years of participation on forums of various faith groups, and a knowledge of church history: The definition of a heretic is someone who believes other than what you do.
     
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    This is what the Catholic Church teaches about children who dies before baptism. "1261 As regards children who have died without Baptism, the Church can only entrust them to the mercy of God, as she does in her funeral rites for them. Indeed, the great mercy of God who desires that all men should be saved, and Jesus’ tenderness toward children which caused him to say: “Let the children come to me, do not hinder them,”64 allow us to hope that there is a way of salvation for children who have died without Baptism. All the more urgent is the Church’s call not to prevent little children coming to Christ through the gift of holy Baptism. (1257, 1250)"
    Libreria Editrice Vaticana. Catechism of the Catholic Church. United States Conference of Catholic Bishops.
     
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    Do you know how to use the quotes feature?

    Now to address your commentary, just who are you portraying as a NAZI?
     
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    Is that a recent stance or has that always been the RCC position?
     
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    Very profound:Thumbsup
     
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    I have to research it some to be certain how the church has historically viewed the issue and there are several statements by differing people that would hold one view and another, another view. However, Magisterium doesn't go back on what has been previously taught. What generally happens is that certain views maybe expressed differently by different people theologians, clergy, etc... But when the question is raised to and there becomes a dogmatic statement for the magisterium that settles it for good.
     
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    See, then he wouldn’t be full of the other :rolleyes:
     
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