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Discussion in 'Baptist Colleges & Seminaries' started by FollowTheWay, Sep 8, 2018.

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  1. JonC

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    I agree (although I have to admit much is my own suspicion of greed-self interest as a motivation). I guess folk just don't see that log in their own eye.

    I can't justify supporting either party. The Democrat platform IS the sins of Roman's. The Republican platform seems to me to be self-serving. I opt out :)
     
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    What theologically liberal/moderate positions does he hold to?

    I was pretty unimpressed with the complaints about his Apologetic approach to the Muslims.
     
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    In THIS topic, only by you ...

     
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    There ya have it folks. This is what it was about. The accusation that it was about partisan politics is subterfuge.

    To touch on the points . . . inspiration vs inerrancy. The inerrancy of the Scriptures rests on their transmission. Did they evolve as asserted by the now debunked Documentary Hypothesis (JEDP), or did the events unfold as described?

    It can make one feel real heady to deny the histories and reported authorship of the texts and at the same time assert claim they have faith in them. "The Exodus never really happened, but the account is inspired."

    That's the age old liberal response to any solid biblical exegesis, or 'conservative theology.'

    If you believe God revealed His mind, then the explanation is in the Scriptures. But the whole point of JEDP is to wrest authority from the Scriptures and place it into an elitist few who know better how to interpret the Scriptures and to tell us what is real and what is not.

    "Creation didn't happen in six days."

    "Moses couldn't be the author, there was no writing then."

    "Isaiah was written over the course of two hundred years by many contributors."

    The Apostle of Grace said, "I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man."

    Submit to the Apostolic authority in this respect, and the issues of homosexuality are moot.

    And now, the old liberal chestnut . . .
    Really? Neophyte.

    Anyway, not going to debate these points, but you see how FTW snip jumped on them. That's what the fight was about.
     
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  5. FollowTheWay

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    I've voted for Presidents from both parties. I vote the candidate not necessarily the party. The problem with just saying all politicians are greedy and should be removed, however, is that's making a statement about our form of government. Abandoning the political process is abandoning the vision of America. I know one good man in Congress, Rep. John Yarmuth of KY. I went to high school with him and his brother was president of my senior class. We need to reduce the impact of "dark money" and lobbyists and return our government to the people. Lincoln had the right idea, a government of the people, by the people and for the people. If this dream fails America goes down.
     
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    This should not be about politics as it has been for the last 30 years. The new president is not controlled by they group that has had the SBC in a vise and fired good professors/missionaries for the last 30 years.
     
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    "In THIS topic, only by you" ...Correct. That wasn't what I said.
     
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    I quoted what you said, in context, for all to read and judge for themselves.
     
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    My comment about "understanding the mind of God" was specific to understanding the roles of predestination, foreknowledge and free will in shaping men's lives and destiny. I personally no longer think the difference between foreknowledge and predestination is important enough to split communities of believers. If you do please explain and don't life my comments out of their context.
     
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    You said he was a moderate, what do you consider his moderate positions?
     
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    His push for social justice for one.
     
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    I don't believe all politicians are greedy. I'm speaking of the parties. I believe that the political parties are more than the candidates that represent the machine. I also believe that the Republican and Democratic parties are two sides of the same coin.
     
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    We, the people need to regain control of America as our forefathers envisioned. Corporations are not people as current law states. The Supreme Court ruling in the Citizens United ase must be overturned to accomplish this. Right now big money rules America.
     
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    Uh you libs have no idea how they envisioned America. government run healthcare is against the founding of this country. I could go on but you get the point.
     
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    Not only that but look at the Federal Government in principle. What our forefathers envisioned was a small federal government serving the needs of larger state governments. No federally regulated education system. No federally regulated welfare system. No federal health care system. No federal interference with the internal aspects of states who govern themselves.

    It will never happen. The Republicans claim they want a government as our forefathers envisioned but are (and will always be) unable to provide such a government. The Democrats openly reject the intent of our forefathers and the intent of the Constitution (the Democrat Party is progressive when it comes to the Constitution .... and I'm not sure they are always wrong).
     
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    Reagan talked about reducing the size of government and reducing government spending. he ended up increasing both by a fair amount.
     
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    Could you explain that, Jon?
     
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    They are adopting the principles of the world (worldly views on gender issues, on the role of Scripture, SSM, etc.).
     
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    They have always been extreme liberals.
     
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    Supporting women as either pastors/Elders, denying eternal Hell, approvomng of abortiond and gay marriages would be some Liberal viewpoinst!
     
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