Were souls created before the body is formed?

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, ". . . For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. . . ."

 

So am I to understand that you deny Ezekiel 18:4 and James 5:20 and Matthew 10:28 where where Jesus said that both body and soul perish? What happens to the body then also happens to the soul?

 

God does not even have a soul, not in the same sense that humans do!

 

The bofy will be resurrected immortal/glorified, and the soul shall never die , a sits part of the body forever!

 

Our physical bodoes shall raised up immortal and glorified!

 

To the scriptures, and to the Jewish mindset, all of us will be raised up, so we will be the same body born with, justnow perfect and immortal!

 

You will have the exact same type of Body Jesus now has!

 

Luke 24:39

 

That is the same body he now has and we who are saved will one day have!

 

Psalm 82 is about the role and duty of the rulers and the magistrates of the world, and how they've universally failed. But it also is intended to encourage those who may be suffering under unjust judges, because God stands in their gathering, and His judgments prevail.

So Christ said to Pilate, 'Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above.'

In that sense, Pilate is pronounced a son of the Most High, having been ordained of God to do God's work of the execution of justice upon man. Men are to do the works of their father (John 8:39). But because these sons of the Most High did not do the works of their father (actually the father of their office) they will die like men. They will come to an ignominious end.

The psalm also serves to keep the Jews humble. Because of their covenant with God, they are tempted that they above all have a divine right to rule, but Christ said no. All the rulers of the nations are put there by God, and are, in that sense, sons of the Most High. The term Most High, El Elyon, is the name by which God is known of the Gentiles, and there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

Jesus brings it up, not because it supports his claim of being the eternal Son of God. Psalm 82 has nothing to do with the divinity of Christ (and nothing to do with the divinity of man). He brings it up to stop the mouths of those who presume to be zealous for the law while they're ignorant of it. The Scriptures call them gods who rule, how is Jesus guilty of blasphemy for calling Christ the son of God?

 

You glibly dismiss millennia of devout exposition that concludes Psalm 82 is speaking of earthly rulers when gods are mentioned, offering no counter exposition whatever. All you offer is a non sequitor.

"This had to be in Heaven."

Really? Why? Do you deny the omnipresence of God?

Do you think Jesus and Satan were spirit brothers?

 

First we have new age mysticism where all souls were created at once and waited around waiting to have a body to reside in and now we have someone averring the Christ's soul died!?!?!?

This place is getting creepier day-by-day...

 

Are you denying a physical resurrection also?