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Authority to baptize is found in Matthew 28:18-20. If this text is very carefully considered according to proper exegesis, immediate and overall context, then authority is being delivered by Christ into the hands of those who are contextually defined as "disciples."

I think I can demonstrate to any objective mind based on proper exegesis, immediate and overall context that "disciples" in this text does not refer to two entities considered in this context, one of which are unbaptized, untaught and unassembled professing disciples or those contextually identified as "them" in Matthew 28:19-20. The other entity of course are those who do not profess to be Christians or the nations unto which they are being sent.

Many imagine that only the eleven considered as "apostles" are being authorized, although Matthew does not use the term "apostles" in verse 16 but "disciples." Many imagine that there are no other disciples present in the immediate context at this mount in Galilee, but the preceding text provides convincing evidence of the very opposite.

However, more importantly, proper exegesis provides many keys to the proper identity of those being authorized to administer baptism. First, they are those who "have" already been evangelized, baptized and assembled under Christ and taught all things. In direct contrast, those identified as "them" in the context are the subjects for baptism and assembling to be instructed rather than administers of such things. The blind cannot lead the blind, the untaught cannot teach what they have not been taught - those being authorized by Christ to administer baptism are not the unevangelized, or the unbaptized or the baptized and untaught but those who have been through this threefold process.

This brings me to the three participles that modify the primary verb which literally translated means "make disciples." Make disciples is the aim in view. But not any kind of disciples. The three participles define what kind of disciple is to be made. It is not a "disciple" who preaches another kind of gospel as those whom are the subjects of the book of Galatians (Gal.1:8-9). It is not a "disciple" who administers another kind of baptism but the only that justifies God and is according to his counsel (Lk. 7:29-30). It is not a "disciple" who teaches contrary to the "apostles doctrine" (Acts 2:41) as those who "depart from the faith" are heretical and condemned in Scripture (1 Tim. 4:1).

Ultimately, he is referring to disciples who have not merely been baptized but assembled not merely for instruction but for proper observation of that body of faith delivered by Christ. Indeed, the New Testament church is inseparable from the third participle as Luke demonstrates in Acts 2:40-41.

So, Judas properly administered baptism because baptism is not given to the individual believer, but the body of believers called the assembly. Therefore, the administrator does not act on his own initiative or authority but under the authority of the body. Baptismal administration finds it authority in a properly constituted body of professing baptized believers.

 

My judgment is that he needs to head to the border and start signing in non-citizens of The United States as Citizens of the United States, by using the same type of self-proclaimed 'authority' as he insists on playing church with.

Please, don't name me as an 'authority' on the traditions of man being superior to God's Revelation to mankind, just because it could cause someone to feel sorry for themselves.

Does he give a darn, one way or another about what he's asking?

Does he?

What's your judgment on that?

Am I wasting my time with someone simply reasoning with their carnal mind, which mind of the flesh is the sin-cursed enemy of God, and they are more interested in asking God's children to pay the price of giving up the Authority to Understand the Authority of what Jesus Called, "My church", by The Authority of God's Word than in having any desire to Spiritually Discern her?

That is too high a price.

He asked, accused, made unilateral decisions in opposition to God, based on misinterpretation and misunderstanding.

Where's God in all this?

 

'Holiness' is relevant to Salvation.

 

Amen! But maybe you should concern yourself with the first part of Hebrews 12:14 as well as the second, and start acting like a Christian in your conversations with others. You can start by addressing me in the Second Person.

Water baptism brings no one into the kingdom of God any more than my naturalizing Honduran migrants would make them U.S. citizens. Baptism didn't make Simon Magus into a Christian (Acts 8:13, 21) regardless of who baptized him. It is the Triune God who makes Christians.

 

When Jesus Commissioned His Divinely Instituted church gathering of His eleven disciples who had been "builded together' out of the Material prepared by John's Baptism, they were an Official, Constituted, Scripturally Baptised, Organization, ASSEMBLED IN CORPORATE "ONE of JESUS' CHURCHES" CAPACITY, to whom AS A CONSTITUTED CHURCH of JESUS ORGANIZATION, The Son of God Promised HER, "I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen".

Jesus Promised HER that He would BE WITH HER.

And He Has Been.

Those 'disciples' died.

'They' had been Given The Authority of God in The Great Commission that our Bible puts as 'All Power' that was Given to Jesus.

'They' were her.

She has The Authority.

Otherwise, the Commission and Authority died with the 'disciples' and Jesus is a liar to Say He would be with 'you' to the end of the age.

'You' is 'her'.

If someone wants to say they are going to Stand before Jesus and tell Him differently, then I would like to recommend unto them, The Bible, first; before they go there.

"Yeah, they died and I had to take it up again and Jesus was just saying 'me', when He said, 'I am with you'."

But that is not what it could have meant to the 'disciples' Jesus was Saying the Words to. Simply that they were 'disciples' and someone else could come along and be a 'disciple' and have 'All Authority Given" unto Him, IN TURN, GIVEN TO THEM AS AN INDIVIDUAL to GO, MAKE DISCIPLES, BAPTISE, TEACH?

That is wishful 'thinking', if we want to remember that that 'thinking' and 'reasoning' done apart from The Holy Spirit and Scripture, is done with a sin-cursed mind of the flesh, that is resulting in a denial of churches Founded by Jesus.

It also can't be made to fit into the Passage.

"All Power is Given unto Me"/ "Go"/ and "I Will Be with You unto the end of the Age" fits that Jesus Knew Exactly who was Talking to and Why.

Like a hand in a glove.

In Matthew 28:18-20, Jesus is Speaking to His Divinely Instituted JESUS Organization, assembled in Corporate, Divinely Instituted JESUS Organization (church; called out assembly) capacity.

Jesus Appointed her there.
Jesus Commissioned her there.
Jesus Promised her Perpetuity there.

And Jesus Has Kept His Promise.

 

If I had a way to keep people from feeling sorry for themselves, I would.

I don't know of any evidence for your first paragraph and I don't believe any exists.

It's cool how that analogy of signing non-citizens over into be Citizens of The United States is not within our authority, isn't it?

Same with using the blank pages at the back of our Bible to write in a bunch of fantasies, as if that's why 'God Put them there', i.e., to exercise our 'authority'.

 

The true Church of jesus is the Body of Christ, his bride, and there shall be more than just Baptists in it, correct?

 

None of these wordings are of Biblical Origin, in the way that you are using them. Entire books have been written to explain why. If you are going to ask a question, learn one to ask with wording that is Relevant to Reality.

It took Satan 1,500 years to get humans to begin adopting these various false concepts, into their reasoning, concerning the Word of God, in the way that you are using them.

In the way that you are using them, they are each, simply, of Satanic Origin.

"The true Church"

"The true Church of jesus"

"The...Church of jesus"

"The ... Church"

"the Body"

"the Body of Christ"

"the Body of Christ, his bride"

"his bride, more than just Baptists"

"his bride"

"more than just Baptists"

just Baptists in it"

"it"