Francis Chan Warns Against Division in the Church

Too late. The division started centuries ago and shows no signs of ending anytime soon.

 

Great quote from Buchner on the same issue:

"When Jesus took the bread and said, "This is my body which is broken for you" (1 Corinthians 11:24), it's hard to believe that even in his wildest dreams he foresaw the tragic and ludicrous brokenness of the church as his body. There's no reason why everyone should be Christian in the same way and every reason to leave room for differences, but i f all the competing factions of Christendom were to give as much of themselves to the high calling and holy hope that unite them as they do now to the relative inconsequentialities that divide them, the church would look more like the Kingdom of God for a change and less like an ungodly mess."

 

Division in the Church

In Matthew Chapter 13 Jesus fully predicted the attempted infiltration and destruction of His Church...

Matthew 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

The Outcome:

Matthew 13
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

 

". . . If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which [temple] ye are. . . ."

. . . ει τις τον ναον του θεου φθειρει φθερει τουτον ο θεος . . . .
. . . ει τις If any, meaning anyone.
φθειρει Defile, destroy, spoil should be translated by the same word twice. Paul was warning, ". . . the temple of God is holy, which [temple] ye are. . . ." against them.

 

In the Sovereign Grace Primitive Baptist Church I grew up in and being the Son of a Deacon and Church Clerk we had a practice in our church called exclusion... Not be be confused with excommunication... This practice went according to scripture of excluding an unruly brother or sister, until they got to paraphrase it, their act together... This was for the good of the body of Christ... I can speak of this personally because it happened to me and as soon as I cleaned up my act so to speak I was restored in full fellowship... I feel that some think this practice is because the church didn't love the one excluded, one is not excluded because the church doesn't love them but because they do... Same as the Lord chastiseth his children and parents are supposed to do the same to their children but sometimes discipline is lacking... I feel if every church practiced exclusion if needed we would have healthy churches... Always remember we all walk with feet of clay and need to give and receive forgiveness... Brother Glen

Matthew 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

18:17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

 

I live in a post Christian world. There is no true Christian church. Instead there are clubs, pedofiles, heretical assemblies. So what do you do?

 

Find a good bible believing Baptist or reformed church to attend!

 

Yes, but the sins of the flesh which have been mentioned by EWT are probably kept secret and practiced by the initiates of such.

I remember shortly after being saved I was solicited by a member of a "Christian" group who (in all seriousness) said - you must commit sin to prove that you believe what Jesus did for you in forgiving your sins.

Revelation 2:24 Now to you I say, and to the rest in Thyatira, as many as do not have this doctrine, who have not known the depths of Satan, as they say, I will put on you no other burden.

 

What is really shameful is the sexual sinning that has been done in the Church of Rome with priests for a very long time, as there is NO justification for them to force celibacy upon those who were not gifted by God to do such!

 

It (porneia) exists in Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, etc... churches as well

In fact two of the practices of the churches of the Revelation reveals this:

Revelation 2:14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

Revelation 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

 

True, but it does not seem to be nearly as large scaled as in Rome, as their teaching on celibate priests seem to be a big factor in this sexual sinning...

 

We don't know how far spread it is no matter which church.

 

There are none

 

None in your area, or none in general?

 

Pretty sure that it has been widespread in certain Catholic churches though...

 

Be careful.

 

I am not saying even that many of their churches have been involved, but there has been considerable damage done by that institution, and still maintain that their burden of forcing priests to be celibate is a big part of their problem in this area!

 

In my area