1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

"Heresy" is "Salvation".

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Alan Gross, Dec 8, 2018.

  1. Alan Gross

    Alan Gross Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2018
    Messages:
    5,466
    Likes Received:
    450
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I believe that I can say these False Gospels come out of the strangest places. I came across, "Heresy" is "Salvation", as the assumption that absolute, 100%, opposition to God, may be termed an acceptable Way to be assured a Home in Heaven, without a need for an inquisition. I found this on an internet Forum that does not welcome 'Bible Believers' and has edited out, "Jesus is The Savior" ( much like the common 'church program pamphlet' or paper advertisement, or their 'Christain' internet website is HARD PRESSED to SHOW THE NAME, 'JESUS', for themselves or A BIBLE VERSE.) Enlightening.
     
  2. tyndale1946

    tyndale1946 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2001
    Messages:
    10,964
    Likes Received:
    2,380
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Without Jesus where do they think they would be going?... I know according to scripture where they are going!... 100% opposition to God you say... Is Charlie Manson on that forum?:Devilish... Just asking!... Brother Glen:)

    John 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

    14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

    14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

    14:4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

    14:5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?

    14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  3. Benjamin

    Benjamin Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2004
    Messages:
    8,423
    Likes Received:
    1,160
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Atheist are almost always 100% in opposition to God and furthermore they wish to be judge between good evil in their pride as a moral equal to God. This typically sets up my arguments against them. I tell them this desire of theirs is natural as described in creation about the fall of man. In pride, having been made in the likeness and image of God, man believed the lie of the Devil that they could be as God and took of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Such is the life you were born in. So sorry they are ungrateful...yes, they should be thankful...but instead they use their imaginations. I start by giving them this verse to show them the predicament they are in:

    Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

    Then I ask them about their power to live forever, do they have their own special tree? I tell them God knew this was coming and provided a way but here is the problem that they don't seem to realize, there is only One God, one kingdom and you have to be perfect in your judgment to go there, IN "HIS" KINGDOM. Good luck with that …little gods

    Next, I give them the ole you won’t have an excuse for not accepting the gracious gift of God and the great sacrifice of His Son of Jesus as your Lord and Savior and express my amazement of their faith in their own abilities to overcome God, their Creator, and become one:

    Rom 1:17-22 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. (18) For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; (19) Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. (20) For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: (21) Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. (22) Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    Finally, I wish them luck at creating their own heaven for their afterlife and warn them that the weather may be a bit warm there…
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  4. Alan Gross

    Alan Gross Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2018
    Messages:
    5,466
    Likes Received:
    450
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Ephesians 4:17; This I say, therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,

    18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart;

    19 Who, being past feeling, have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

    20 But ye have not so learned Christ,

    21 If so be that ye have heard Him, and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus:

    22 That ye put off concerning the former manner of life {conversation} the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts,

    23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

    24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

    25Wherefore, putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbor; for we are members one of another.

    26 Be ye angry, and sin not; let not the sun go down upon your wrath;

    27 Neither give place to the devil.

    28 Let him that stole steal no more; but rather, let him labor, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

    29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

    30 And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, by Whom ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

    31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamor, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice;

    32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God, for Christ's sake, hath forgiven you.

     
Loading...