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Featured Best One-Volume Systematic Theology?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Mikey, Dec 3, 2018.

  1. The Archangel

    The Archangel Well-Known Member

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    Ok. I didn't think you a universalist to begin with. While, I don't agree with your assessment, I do understand more clearly what you're saying. I hope you are well.

    Blessings in Christ,

    The Archangel
     
  2. John of Japan

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    Thanks. I'll ponder on this.
     
  3. Yeshua1

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    He does seem to hold to almost a primitive Baptist view on Evangelism and how to teach/preach the Gospel!
     
  4. JonShaff

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    Christ is sinless and Perfect, He is God, He can be nothing less than perfect.

    Romans 8:3
     
  5. Mikey

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    Why was Christ's Human nature not corrupted? Why was He not under original sin?
     
  6. JonShaff

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    Technically speaking, i'm not saying that, Hence why i quoted Romans 8:3
     
  7. Yeshua1

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    IF Jesus had been born of the seed of Joseph, would have been a sinner though!
     
  8. JonShaff

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    I think you missed the BIGGER picture. Christ is Born of God, because GOD is His Father. He is the Son of God. And that is why He is not a sinner. Yet He had the same flesh you and I have.
     
  9. Yeshua1

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    Same human flesh, NOT the same sin nature!
     
  10. JonShaff

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    This is kind of a side point...While i agree He did not have 'sin nature' (i believe it is more biblical to say spiritually dead--hence our need to be 'born again'), i find it funny that you claim that Christ had sin nature when He was on the cross.
     
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  11. JonC

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    I typically agree. But with the reference I suggest i disagree (except that I think one should have a pretty good foundation before studying any systematic theology).

    Too often people study to be indoctrinated rather than to truly learn and in the end they wind up looking like the theology they studied.
     
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    Indeed. Those who deny the validity of the Great Commission for us are usually either primitive Baptist or ultra dispensationalist.
     
  13. John of Japan

    John of Japan Well-Known Member
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    Thank you kindly.
     
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  14. Yeshua1

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    NO! rather, I claim that he who knew no sin become the sin bearer on our behalf, that he paid to God what we could not do ourselves!
     
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    So, in that he took on Sin, He took on sin nature? He became a sinner? what exactly are you saying?
     
  16. Yeshua1

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    Barth was not sound though on how he viewed either Election or doctrine of scripture!
     
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    Due to the Virgin Birth!
     
  18. Yeshua1

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    Hyper Calvinists also hold to no need to evangelize sinners, as the lost will be saved regardless if actually hearing the Good news!
     
  19. Yeshua1

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    No, for Jesus came in LIKENESS, not SAMENESS of human flesh!
    Jesus, while on that cross, became the sin bearer, so while he never ceased to be either God or sinless, was treated by the Father as if He were!
     
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    That's not the point of the book I recommended (it wasn't about election or the doctrine of scripture).

    And with Barth you sometimes have to ask "which one"? :Smile
     
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