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Turn, Turn, Turn

Discussion in 'Music Ministry' started by rlvaughn, Jan 15, 2019.

  1. rlvaughn

    rlvaughn Well-Known Member
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    This looks like it will be an interesting book about the intersection of music, culture, and the Bible.
    Turn, Turn, Turn: Popular Songs Inspired by the Bible by Steve Turner (Museum of the Bible Books, released November 13, 2018)
    Amazon has the "Look Inside" feature, and a preview is available at Google Books.
     
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    I intended to post this in the Books & Publications Forum, but I guess I got on the wrong line. :confused:
     
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    Interesting - though some are direct contradictions of the Bible.

    I like this as a pacifist song, but it rather misses the point of the Scripture - Isaiah said it better!

    HOW BEAUTIFUL UPON THE MOUNTAIN (Tom Paxton) -

    Lyrics
    How beautiful upon the mountain
    Are the steps of those who walk in peace
    How beautiful upon the mountain
    Are the steps of those who walk in peace

    Across the bridge at Selma you came marching side by side
    In your eyes a new world on the way
    Hope was in your heart and justice would not be denied
    You sang we shall overcome some day
    God knows the courage you possessed
    And Isaiah said it best
    How beautiful upon the mountain
    Are the steps of those who walk in peace

    Marching round the White House, marching round the Pentagon
    Marching round the mighty missile plans
    Speaking truth to power, singing peace in Babylon
    Asking us why not give peace a chance
    God knows the courage you possess
    And Isaiah said it best
    How beautiful upon the mountain
    Are the steps of those who walk in peace

    Now the generations who have joined you on this road
    Look to you with power in their eyes
    Now you know the torch has passed as they pick up the load
    Now you see their eyes are on the prize
    God knows the courage they possess
    And Isaiah said it best
    How beautiful upon the mountain
    Are the steps of those who walk in peace
     
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    I heard an interview with the author. He doesn't intend to mean the songs are biblical, but that they have some biblical ideas, context, or inspiration. For example, Turner said the Ben E. King's secular song "Stand by Me" was inspired by the gospel song "Stand by Me" by Charles Albert Tindley.
     
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    Just an update Brother Robert, my wife asked me what I would like for my birthday... Knowing you recommended a book Atonement In The Apocalypse by Robert W. Canoy which I bought and read and enjoyed, I told her well just get me Turn Turn Turn which, Brother Robert recommended and she did... Just got it the other day, which I started to read and it looks like another good one... Thanks again Brother Robert!... Brother Glen:Thumbsup
     
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    The children's favourite, "All things bright & beautiful" has a verse that goes beyond Calvin -
    The rich man in his castle;
    the poor man at his gate;
    God made them high or lowly
    and ordered their estate.​

    That was taken up by Maggie Holland (!) in her song "A Place called England"
    I saw town & I saw country;
    Motorway and sink estate;
    rich man in his rolling acres;
    poor man still outside his gate;

    retail park and burger kingdom;
    prairie field and factory farms,
    run by men who think that England's
    only a place to park their cars.​

    I like this version.
     
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    Hope you enjoy the book, Brother Glen!! :)
     
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    Yes I am enjoying the book and am going to recommend it to others who love music like I do, and here is why... The first song mentioned is Can The Circle Be Unbroken (Bye and Bye) by The Carter Family circa 1935... Not only did I get to read the story of how the song came to be but because of the web I got to listen to the original recording... I noticed also after reading the history of others mentioned not only could I listen to the originals but also the stories themselves are full of biblical quotations... So I highly recommend it for these reasons... And I know I got it for a gift but you mean those who love music can't part with twenty bucks?... You probably put that much and more into the collection plate... Show some love to yourself and others and BUY the book, and tell your friends... its worth it!... Brother Glen:)
     
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    I've bought it. Surprised to see "How can I keep from singing?" missing from the list.
    When this became popular, I bought a CD as I loved the music. THen I found it was in Sankey, & I had it already - but to a different tune, & with explicitly Christian words. Attributed to Robert Lowry.

    It seems it was modified by Doris Plenn & Pete Seeger & became popular in the folk revival.

    Our choir has been invited to sing a selection of Sankey hymns, so I chose the original version. Our choir leader knows a 2-part arrangement to the revised words - but we will be singing the Christian version as in Sankey.
     
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    I'm disappointed not to see the song words printed.
     
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    Ian... That is one of the drawbacks to the book but I have the web, so I just search them out... So I do a little extra work and someone like yourself that has a background in music, you have the advantage over me... So does Brother Robert... I can't even read music and sing songs by heart... In church, our voice is the musical instrument... When you lead and sing songs to the Lord long enough you get to know them... Brother Glen:)
     
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