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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by MartyF, Mar 17, 2019.

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God knowledge of the future is

  1. exhaustive. God already knows every minute detail of the future since before time.

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  2. not exhaustive. Some things about the future God does not know about.

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  3. nonexistent. God knows nothing about the future.

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  1. MartyF

    MartyF Well-Known Member

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    Well,it seems like I will not get enough votes to truly answer my question, but I did need to respond to this because it is so very wrong.

    As far as the language which is spoken know, you can speak for yourself. You do not speak for me.

    Next, rhinoceros has been a part of the English language since the 1400s. The scholars knew what a rhinoceros was. From tapestries and many other sources, I know that the scholars also considered a unicorn to be a white horse with a long white horn on its head. The cocktrice is a mythical beast which has been a part of English literature since the late 1100s. So, the scholars who translated the KJV also knew it to be a cross between a chicken and a snake.

    Sorry, but the “great” translators of the KJV translated words for common animals into mythical creatures. Of course, I don’t believe any of this will ever sink in with the KJV folks. But I did feel the need to make this correction.
     
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    What is looked at as justification of open theism is really what I will call the eternal dual nature of the second Person of the Trinity. What sets Him apart from the Father.

    He is eternally both the eternal God and not. Even before His incaration (John 1:14) where He changed to be fully and actually human (as God does not change, and He said so speaking as God, Malachi 3:6).

    He is God's sole agent of change, by which He as God created all things (Genesis 1:1; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17).

    He is God the uncaused Cause. John 1:3.

    He is how God appeared to men. John 1:18; John 14:9; Genesis 3:8, who spoke as He walked in the garden.

    He said to Abraham, "now I know." Genesis 22:12.

    He explained to His disciples His intentional limitation, Acts of the Apostles 1:7; Mark 13:32.

    As such He has from eternity been an essential of the Trinity of Persons who are the one true God. (John 1:9-10; Hebrews 1:2-3; 1 John 1:5; John 8:12)

    And BTW the Holy Spirit is how they are the One God. John 4:24; Romans 8:9; Romans 8:16. etc.
     
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    Double Talk ALERT!!
     
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    Perhaps. But depending on one's view of "middle knowledge", it can technically be correct.

    Either way, Arminianism and Open Theism are very different things. They have much in common, and I would agree that Open Theism is of Arministic trajectory. But Arminianism is of Calvinistic trajectory. So there is a point when the "spin off" actually spins off.
     
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