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Sediment on the bottom of oceans.

Discussion in 'Creation vs. Evolution' started by 37818, Apr 10, 2019.

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  1. 37818

    37818 Well-Known Member

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    You and I have only the witness of others.

    I believe the Biblical flood, as I believe you certainly do. By either you or I being wrong about it is not going to make God's word on it void.
     
    #21 37818, Apr 17, 2019
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    There has been scientific problems with radiometric dating for years but old earthers just want to ignore it because deep time is necessary for Darwin to be true, which it isn't.
     
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    What evidence do you have the Bible is God's word?
     
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    Lol.

    Radiometric Dating Does Work!
     
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    That article looks to be at least 20 years old. It assumes the rate of decay has never changed but no one can prove that.
     
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    Do you believe it is not?
     
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    I'm asking a question. It is easy to attack evolutionists and say they don't have evidence for every idea they have. Creationists have to answer the same type of question about their beliefs or they have little ground to stand upon.

    The most important is what evidence is there God wrote the Bible?
     
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    For the rate of decay to change the physical laws of the universe would have to change. What evidence is there this ever happened?
     
    #28 Chomper76, May 3, 2019
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    You didn't answer my question
     
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    Nor did you answer mine.
     
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    This response says quite a bit.
     
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    Do you just make these rules up? You have no idea what the rate of decay was before it was measured in the modern era. The Genesis Flood was not a peaceful flood but a catastrophic event that caused the continents to form, for example.
     
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    The rate of decay has been measured from extraterrestrial sources such as the Moon. Unless you think the alleged global flood also covered the moon, your argument is nonsense.
     
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    It is bizarre that you think answering a question with a question, then wondering why I don't respond to that question says a lot. Especially when your question is a red herring.
     
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    So you are saying that the rate of decay on the moon is the same as the earth and therefore that proves that the rate of decay on the earth is unchanged? The problem is that you do not know what the rate of decay was in the past from a scientific viewpoint because you have no scientific evidence from the past.
     
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    It's not a red herring. He's trying to find out your presuppositions. Do you believe that God wrote the Bible? If yes, fine. If not then that's another situation.
     
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    First, we have the internal witness of books in the Bible claiming to be the words from God.

    Secondly, we have history, of the Hebrews, and that they still exist, as opposed to other ancient cultures which have since ceased.

    There is a pophecy in Daniel which says their temple would be desroyed after their Anointed/Messiah is killed. Daniel 9:26. ". . . Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary . . . ."

    In the first century, Christianity came into being according to the Hebrew Bible prophey, Jeremiah 31:31-34.

    Judaism is founded on the first 5 books of the Hebrew Bible and the rites required by their God and the Law written in those first 5 books.

    So either their God has failed them, or Jesus of Nazareth is that Messiah/Christ who died and rose from the dead as the Christian New Testament testified.

    Now there is what is called the gospel of grace taught in the Christian New Testament. Those who believe that Jesus is the Christ (Isaiah 53:1-12), come to actually know God Himself and so have eternal life now with the future hope of immortality (Romans 8:23).

    Now I left much out. But by knowing God through Christ is one of the personal evidences that genuine Christians have (Note some of Jesus' arguments, John 5:46-47; John 7:17; John 8:47; John 18:37).
     
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    Still no answer
     
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    His question had not been answered.
     
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    His question suggests he doesnt believe its Gods word, now an admin has the same concern. Its best he answers it.
     
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