A Militia Group Detained Migrants at the Border. The ACLU Calls It Kidnapping

So why did they bypass the US Consulate in Ciudad Juarez and head to the border? Because...reasons?

 

Does Sunland Park, NM have a border crossing?

Why does this article (which does not appear supportive of the "militia") claim that these people were crossing illegally?

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Don't worry, I won't be holding my breath waiting on your reply.

 

The govt often tries to convince us to give up our rights and intimidate us into not using them.

 

Do YOU believe in states' rights? [And you ain't the only one who can answer a question with a question.]

 

I have read it. I quoted it yesterday. It does not answer either of my questions.

 

Sunland Park to El Paso is 8.4 miles, across a state line.

 

So they navigated across half the continent or more, and then missed Juarez (where there is a US Consulate) and El Paso (where the border crossing is) and ended up in Sunland Park? Lol...

Again, why would a local news article, that calls the actions of the "militia" ilegal, still refer to the people they detained as illegal immigrants?

Look, we can disagree about immigration policy in this country. If you want open borders, you have a right to your opinion. But lets at least be honest about what we're discussing.

 

That is because you do not understand the purpose in the wall.

 

If we were guarding the border right, it would be.

 

No, it is dishonest spin. The truth is that these people have designs on America and are entering illegally. If they truly need asylum, they could and should apply much earlier.

There is no proof that such people travel with their own children, or that they qualify for asylum. In any case, they gravely endanger children, so such arguments are disingenuous spin.

 

Try to follow the statement made and what it entails. Your understanding is exactly backward. The US Constitution, including its amendments, are fundamental to all other laws of the land. If a law violates the constitution, then it is to be regarded as unconstitutional and therefore invalid.

 

Agreed. They were however exercising their 2nd Amendment rights and also the New Mexico constitution's right to bear arms. There was just a video played on national television yesterday that showed some heavily armed smugglers bringing some Central Americans to the border, and this shows that the border area is indeed a dangerous place.

All Americans have the right to make "Citizen's Arrests" of people who are breaking the law and hold them for the authorities, now the authorities might not want them doing that, but they are doing it nonetheless.

 

Okay, let's forget about the wall and put our military there to stop all this madness. And I'm not talking unarmed forces, but heavily armed soldiers doing routine patrols to interdict the drugs and the illegal entrants. I think that is part and parcel of why we have a military, to protect the national sovereignty of the nation. What we have there right now is defacto open borders and we have the right shut it up tight.

So are you game for that?

 

We all know this asylum business is a ruse. Ninety percent of them are not in fear of being persecuted by their own governments and the idea is to get in here and not show up for their court hearing. I am sorry, but some woman in fear of getting beat up by her husband is not a matter that entitles her to sanctuary here in America, but it is a matter for the criminal justice system in her own country.