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Gorship
(If God operates that way he could have created a world where all people freely choose to love and obey Him.)

But rather God gets glory in damning the unrepentent that he could have)

No....if you agree with what I posted...there is no IF...AND NO COULD HAVE!!!
GOD IS PERFECTLY WISE.
He never needs plan B.
Plan A. Is right on schedule eph3:9-11

 

You did not say...Plan b...but your post suggested what if, or God could have.
If you agree with what I said, then what God has indeed ordained to come to pass could not have happened any other way.
Your suggestion that things could have been any other way is not valid.
Your question calls into question the perfection of God Himself.
Think it out.
Has God offered and purposed something not perfect?

 

You are right, it doesn't imply it. It flat says it.

 

Let me ask you this, what do you think foreknew means in Romans 8:29?

 

That's not what it means in the context or in the word definition itself. I suggest a word study and then look at the context again. It literally means to choose, to select, foreordain. This is in every major lexicon for that word which is proginosko

 

I didn't say that. But if you have studied it then you know you are incorrect. It is not knowing a choice that will be made. There is no way you get that from the context of the passage or the lexical meaning of the usage in the passage.

 

Then show your work. How in the world do you honestly come to your conclusion by context and lexical value? Explain.

 

Another anti-calvinist who can't actually refute the position....or support their own when shown to be in error....

 

I'm tough in person too. Not sure why you feel the need for the personal attack. I simply pointed out you can't or maybe just won't refute the Calvinist position. It's an epidemic here amoung anti-calvinists.

The OP was about understanding calvinism and you are going against one of the main points of it.

I have already shown how you are in lexical error. Contextually there is no way you get that foreknew is actually knowing what a person will choose and making that decision.

 

Except that is what I did not do. Perhaps you missed it:

I gave you the lexical meaning shown in every major lexicon. By the way its also in every major study Bible and most of the major commentaries.

That's not arrogance, what is ridiculous is that you charge me with arrogance when you won't even engage my actual posts. You keep sputtering nonsense saying you don't owe me anything (not that I said you did) and then you say I just said that you were wrong? That's the same thing @Van does. He keeps saying I only said "taint so" when in fact, I have totally refuted his position and he refuses to engage just as you are doing now.

 

Gorship wants an answer to the question, "If God created man with the ability to choose sin, and if God is in control of everything, determines everything, then how can the Calvinist claim God is not responsible for sin?"


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