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Matthew 24:29-30

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  1. robycop3

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    Matt. 24:29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

    These verses, a quote from Jesus Himself, prove preterism false. Had the great trib already occurred, Jesus woulda returned long ago, as per His own words. And if the beast/antichrist had already come, the trib woulda occurred.

    And, of course, with those words, Jesus completely destroyed the notion that the events of 66-70 AD was the trib, as He hasn't yet returned.
     
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  2. Alofa Atu

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    Preterism, as we presently know it today stems from the formulation of it by Jesuits. Of course it is false.

    ... Afterwards, then follows several signs in the earth/heaven itself, namely, "shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven ...", which is paralleled in several other verses, namely:

    [1,290, AD 508 unto AD 1798]
    Daniel 12:11 - "... a thousand two hundred and ninety days."

    [1,335, AD 508 unto AD 1843/44]
    Daniel 12:12 - "Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days."
    Revelation 14:13 - "... Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth ..."

    [70 Weeks, 62 + 7 + 1 [1/2 + 1/2], 457 BC unto AD 27 [Baptism], unto AD 31 [Cross], unto AD 34 [Stephen], then the remaining 1810, unto AD 1843/44]
    Daniel 9:24-27 - Whole ...

    [5 Anti-typical feast Months, AD 31-100, unto AD 1833/34, Day of Trumpets, from Pentecost; Leviticus 23; Woe 1, Woe 2 and Woe 3, encompassing the whole 'Exodus', 'Wilderness' unto 'Canaan']
    Revelation 9:5 - "... five months ..."
    Revelation 9:6 - "... those days ..."
    Revelation 9:10 - "... five months ..."

    [1,260, 42 months, time, times and 1/2 time; AD 538 unto AD 1798]
    Daniel 7:25 - "... a time and times and the dividing of time." ["wear out the saints"]
    Daniel 12:7 - "... a time, times, and a half ..." ["scatter the power of the holy people"]
    Matthew 24:29 - "... the tribulation of those days ..." [reference to Daniel]
    Mark 13:24 - "...that tribulation ..." [reference to Daniel]
    Luke 21:24 - "... the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled."
    Revelation 6:11 - "... killed as they were ..." [two groups, past and future, see Rev. 20:4 ]
    Revelation 11:2 - "... given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months."
    Revelation 11:3 - "... a thousand two hundred and threescore days ..."
    Revelation 12:6 - "... a thousand two hundred and threescore days."
    Revelation 12:14 - "... a time, and times, and a half a time ..." ["persecuted", see vs 13]
    Revelation 13:5 - " ... forty and two months." ["power" was given to "him" [1st [sea] Beast, Rev. 13]]

    [Great Lisbon Earthquake, AD 1755, November 1]

    Revelation 6:12 - "... a great earthquake ..."

    [Great Dark Day, AD 1780, May 19 - Sun]
    Joel 2:10 - "... the sun ... shall be dark ..."
    Joel 2:31 - "The sun shall be turned into darkness ..."
    Matthew 24:29 - "... shall the sun be darkened ..."
    Mark 13:24 - "... the sun shall be darkened ..."
    Luke 21:25 - "And there shall be signs in the sun ..."
    Acts 2:20 - "The sun shall be turned into darkness ..."
    Revelation 6:12 - "... and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair ..."

    [Great Dark Day, AD 1780, May 19 - Moon]
    Joel 2:10 - "... and the moon shall be dark ..."
    Joel 2:31 - "... and the moon into blood ..." [before the great and terrible day of the LORD come]
    Matthew 24:29 - "... and the moon shall not give her light ..."
    Mark 13:24 - "... and the moon shall not give her light,"
    Luke 21:25 - "... and in the moon ..."
    Acts 2:20 - "... and the moon into blood ..." [before that great and notable day of the Lord come]]
    Revelation 6:12 - "... and the moon became as blood;"

    [Reign of Terror, French Revolution, AD 1793 unto AD 1797/8; 'spiritually Egypt and Sodom']
    Revelation 11:9 - "... three days and an half ..."
    Revelation 11:11 - "... after three days and a half ..."

    [Great Leonid Meteor Shower, AD 1833, November 13]
    Matthew 24:29 - "... and the stars shall fall from heaven ..."
    Mark 13:25 - "And the stars of heaven shall fall ..."
    Luke 21:25 - "... and in the stars ..."
    Revelation 6:13 - "And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth ..."

    [Day of Atonement, AD 1844, October 22; 2,300 which began in 457 BC, Ezra 7, Daniel 9, etc ending in AD 1843/44]
    Daniel 8:14 - "... Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed."
    Revelation 9:15 - "... prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year ..." [Rev. 14:6-7; Leviticus 23:26-32; 1 Kings 8:2; Daniel 8:13,14,26, etc]
    Revelation 10:6 - "... that there should be time no longer ..." [no more prophetic time as a test]

    Luke 21:25 - "... and upon earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;"

    Isaiah 13:7 - "Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:"
    Isaiah 13:8 - "And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrow shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth ..."
    Luke 21:26 - "Men's heart's failing them from fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth ..."

    [The Close of probation for mankind in receiving and assimilating the Everlasting Gospel]

    Daniel 12:1 -"And at that time shall Michael stand up ... there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time ..."
    Luke 13:25 - "When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without ..."
    Revelation 10:7 - "In the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished ..."
    Revelation 22:11 - "He that is unjust, let him be unjest still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still."

    [7 Last plagues, Wrath of God poured out]
    Job 14:13 - "... thy wrath ..."
    Revelation 11:18 - "... and thy wrath is come ..." [Revelation 16:2-17 ]

    [Final Events]

    Isaiah 13:10 - "For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine."
    Joel 2:10 - "... and the stars shall withdraw their shining:"
    Joel 3:15 - "The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining."

    Jeremiah 25:30 - "... The LORD shall roar from on high, and utter his voice from his holy habitation; he shall mightily roar upon his habitation; he shall give a shout, as they that tread the grapes, against all the inhabitants of the earth."
    Joel 2:11 - "And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army ..."
    Joel 3:16 - "The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, utter his voice from Jerusalem ..." [New Jerusalem in Heaven]

    Joel 3:16 - "... and the heavens and the earth shall shake ..."
    Mark 13:25 - "... and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken."
    Luke 21:26 - "... for the powers of heaven shall be shaken."
    Hebrews 12:26 - "... I shake not the earth only, but also heaven:"

    1 Kings 18:44 - "... ariseth a little cloud out of the sea, like a man's hand ..."
    Matthew 24:30 - "And then shall the appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven ..."

    Revelation 6:14 - "And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together ..."

    Revelation 16:18 - "... a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great."

    Revelation 6:14 - "... and every mountain and island were moved out of their places."
    Revelation 16:20 - "And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found."

    Matthew 24:30 - "... and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."
    Mark 13:26 - "And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory."
    Luke 21:27 - "And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and glory."
    Revelation 6:15 - "And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every freeman, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;"

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    OH MY! :Geek
     
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