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Those whom the Gospel hasn't reached

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by FreeBaptist, May 17, 2019.

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    Well, it is my understanding, of those who were sons of God, ". . . For Christ . . . he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, . . . For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit. . . ." 1 Peter 3:18-19, 1 Peter 4:6.

    They were sons of God (Genesis 6:2). Not angels called sons of God (Job 1:6; Matthew 22:30).
     
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    The ones who perish have at some point had their name removed from the book of life (Revelation 20:15, Exodus 32:33; Psalms 69:27-28). Little children are safe in Christ should they die as such (Mark 10:14). So we must be counted as little children to keep our names in His book (Mark 10:15: John 3:3-4; 1 John 5:4; Revelation 3:5),
     
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    Well yes God is Holy in all of his attributes he has a holy love a holy wrath a holy righteousness everything God does is perfect
     
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    No... he did not go and preach to them in prison
     
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    So then you deny ". . . he preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, . . ." 1 Peter 3:19-20. (Genesis 6:4). They were men, not angels (Matthew 22:30).
     
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    I appreciate your clarification. All the more reason to have a sound foundation in scripture.

    Scripture tells us all people have already rejected God.

    Will you answer this question? If there was another way for salvation to come to mankind without the gospel, why would God send Jesus to die for our sins?

    For example, suppose a father had two sons and one was terminally ill. The doctors tell the father they can cure the sick son with one of two treatments. One of the treatments involves a total blood transfusion from the healthy son (which kills him) and the other involves medicine. Both treatments will heal the sick child.

    What father would chose to kill his own son if it were not necessary?

    Peace to you
     
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    I deny Jesus went down to the spirits in prison,yes. The verse does not teach that. What it does preach is in the day of Noah, the Spirit used Noahs preaching to challenge those, who are now in prison....It was the Spirit, not Jesus who worked through Noah, watch;

    18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh,


    but quickened by the Spirit:

    19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

    20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

    21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
     
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    Sounds like you must not know The God of The Bible.
     
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    Let's be honest. There are verses that do not fit well into Calvinism. There are verses that don't fit well into Arminianism. There are verses that don't fit well into any of the mutt theories.
     
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    So, God is not just?
     
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    those verses fit just fine, just as they are. In fact, they are an exact fit in Calvinism.
     
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    You know, you brethren ought to be ashamed of yourselves, you ran him off... Brother Glen;)
     
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    Questioning my salvation? Grounds for banning, from what I've been told.
     
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    No. You made a direct statement in which you said sending Billions of people to Hell is not what your God would do. That is exactly what The God of The Bible will do. You should seek to know what He says about himself and quit trying to Conform Him to what you think He should be.
     
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    You are doing what you're accusing me of doing. I know who and what God is because I know who and what Jesus is. Scripture supports my view of God, not yours.
     
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    Not one verse in context supports your view of God.
    Revelation 19:11, You know Him?
    Ever read Acts 5?
     
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    No. It says what it says. The argument is interpetation as to how it and the context is to mean. NASB, ". . . in which also He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison, . . ."
     
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    Then just maybe there is a third view.
     
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    There are plenty of "views." All have some scriptural obstacles.
     
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    So you know all possible views.
     
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