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Pre Millennial is what is Biblical

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by 37818, May 29, 2019.

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  1. Marooncat79

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    All nations not app nations

    See what happens when you get old
     
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    Oh, REALLY?

    Then, please explain the prevalence of sin worldwide !
     
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    For claiming to not be a preterist, you sure do seemta believe a lotta their garbage.
     
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    Not if you read ALL the Scriptures! Just as trump was prez-elect from late Nov. 2016 to late Jan. 2017, we are citizens-elect of God's kingdom. While Jesus has left us instructions on how to live, He is NOT physically ruling yet. When He returns, He will rule from David's throne in Jerusalem.

    Remember, He said His saints would be kept from the great trib, & since it'll be worldwide, that means we won't be here.
     
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    Acts 2:36 KJVS
    [36] Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

    The Lord is already ruling. He is in full control. He’s reigning in the hearts of true believers who are the temple of God.
     
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    Remember, all mortal saints will be instantly transformed into their new, immortal bodies when raptured.
     
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    ". . . both Lord and Christ. . . ." -- Acts of the Apostles 2:36.
    ". . . Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. . . ." -- John 20:28.
    ". . . the kingdom of the Christ and God. . . ." -- Ephesians 5:5. Darby.

    Lord refers to Him as the man. Christ as to His deity.
     
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    But they and the glorified resurrected would be to only ones in the "millennium". Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom. So Satan would use some of these glorified to attack the others when loosed.
     
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    Find one word from Jesus saying the Kingdom is physical. He says it is spiritual.
     
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    I'm Amillennial with some Baptist adjustments.
     
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    God's wrath is on all who do not accept Christ. Satan is the destroyer.
     
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    Jesus judges. What can Satan destroy?
     
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    “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” (John 3:36)
     
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    I am of the persuasion that since God and His Persons always existed, they constitute an uncreated universe and kingdom.
     
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    1689, do you think that hell is eternal?
     
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    Yes, but all are under wrath today. Sickness, war, perversion, false religion.....
     
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    Jesus comes to earth to bring the rule of God down to earth.Lk1
    67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,

    68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,

    69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;

    70 As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:

    71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;

    72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;

    73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,

    74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,

    75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.

    76 And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways;

    77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,

    78 Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us,

    79 To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.

    80 And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, and was in the deserts till the day of his shewing unto Israel.
    Jesus keeps the law perfectly.Isa42:21

    Jesus comes to the Holy City looking for fruit mt21
    33 Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:

    34 And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
    Israel rejects the King coming to Zion. Mt21
    38 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
    The King rejects them Mt21:43
    43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
    lk21
    20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

    21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

    22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

    23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

    24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

    25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

    26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.


    Jesus accomplishes redemption binding Satan at the cross.


    Jesus ascends to Heaven to the Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem which is the true Holy Place

    He rules and reigns the earth from His heavenly Throne right now in the midst of His enemies.

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    Psalm 110 King James Version (KJV)
    110 The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

    2 The Lord shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.

    The gospel is going worldwide the Kingdom expands;
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    All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.

    28 For the kingdom is the Lord's: and he is the governor among the nations.


    29 All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.

    30 A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.

    31 They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.

    7 In his days shall the righteous flourish; and abundance of peace so long as the moon endureth.

    8 He shall have dominion also from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends of the earth.

    Jesus returns on the last day

    1cor15:

    24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

    25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.



     
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    I learned my pre-trib beliefs while I was with the GARBC (Register Baptist) and have no intention of changing.
     
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    And what do you think you explained that cannot be pre-millennial?
     
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    True, but that doesn't answer the question.
     
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