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SOULS DIE

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by wopik, Mar 10, 2006.

  1. JFox1

    JFox1 New Member

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    WOW! Ellen G. White sure misled a lot of people! :eek:

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  2. Kamoroso

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    Ps 146:3-4 3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
    4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.

    Ps 115:17 "17 The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence."

    Surely if the dead were conscious, and in heaven they would be praising God. Here is more from David that contradicts what you believe.


    Ps 37:20 20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.

    Ps 68:1-3 1 Let God arise, let his enemies be scattered: let them also that hate him flee before him.
    2 As smoke is driven away, so drive them away: as wax melteth before the fire, so let the wicked perish at the presence of God.
    3 But let the righteous be glad; let them rejoice before God: yea, let them exceedingly rejoice.

    Ps 73:27 27 For, lo, they that are far from thee hall perish: thou hast destroyed all them that go a whoring from thee.

    Ps 112:10 10 The wicked shall see it, and be grieved; he shall gnash with his teeth, and melt away: the desire of the wicked shall perish.


    Bye for now. Y. b. in C. Keith
     
  3. JFox1

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    Ellen G. White claimed that immortality of the soul is a Catholic teaching borrowed from paganism. Then why do the Eastern Orthodox churches teach there is a conscious afterlife? They reject the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church.
     
  4. wopik

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    "The Soul that sins, it shall DIE." - Ez. 18:4, 20.


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    Ez. (Bible in Basic English)
    18:20
    The soul which does sin will be put to death:....


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    Ez. (New Revised Standard Version)
    18:20
    The person who sins shall die.

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  5. standingfirminChrist

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    wopik, you keep posting the same verses over and over. They have been shown using other verses along with them to prove that they do not mean what you claim.

    Get out of the rut.
     
  6. wopik

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    The Soul that sins, it shall DIE." - Ez. 18:4, 20.


    You don't believe God's Word.


    "The Soul that sins, it shall DIE." - Ez. 18:4, 20.


    Man became a living soul -- a living NEPHESH, who shall go back to the earth, from where he came:


    You will eat bread by the sweat of your brow
    until you return to the ground,
    since you were taken from it.
    For you are dust,
    and you will return to dust." - Gen. 3:19
     
  7. standingfirminChrist

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    I believe God's Word. I just don't twist it to mean what it does not mean.
     
  8. wopik

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    of course you do.

    You say souls don't die.
     
  9. standingfirminChrist

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    It has already been proven from new testament scripture that the body is separate from the soul, and also separate from the spirit.
     
  10. DHK

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    Who doesn't believe God's Word? You're on the wrong side of the fence. Go back and read my post. The word "soul" has a variety of meanings, the primary one is "a living creature" which is the one that is used in this verse. The soul (living creature or person) will die. There is not much that is hard to understand in that verse is there?
    Let me explain it for you.
    Wopik: Someday you will die.
    DHK
     
  11. wopik

    wopik New Member

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    those three things make up a whole human being.

    In the NT, the soul simple means LIFE.
     
  12. standingfirminChrist

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    Can't get much plainer than that, DHK.

    Unfortunately, some have spiritual stoppers in their ears and cannot hear the Word, nor can they see the truth for the spiritual blindfolds they choose to wear.
     
  13. wopik

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    DHK

    That's what I've been saying all along.

    What's your point.


    STANDINGFIRM is the one who does not agree with that.
     
  14. wopik

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    the NEPHESH is mortal.
     
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    what's going on here?


    Standingfirm now agrees that nephesh are mortal ??
     
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    The Body has a soul, wopik. Look at the account in 1 Kings 17:22 in the Old Testament...

    The child's soul returned into him. It was separate from the body. The soul is referred to the body is some cases, and in some cases it is an entirely different entity altogether.

    God breathed into man the breath of life. The soul is that which is living. God's breath will not die.
     
  17. wopik

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    DHK moderator,


    what do you think?


    Does a nephesh (a living soul, man) have a soul (nephesh)?


    Or is man (nephesh) a soul (nephesh) ??


    Weigh in.
     
  18. wopik

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    The child's life (nephesh) returned to him.
     
  19. DHK

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    That is not true:

    Luke 12:19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.

    Who was the rich man talking to? He was talking to himself--thinking, using his mind otherwise known as the soul.
    It is the spirit that communicates with God and lives on forever.
     
  20. wopik

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    created great whales [sea creatures], and every living CREATURE [nephesh = "soul"] that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind . . ."

    Genesis 1:21
     
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