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Today is the 6th Day...

Discussion in 'Creation vs. Evolution' started by BenWest, Oct 5, 2019.

  1. BenWest

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    Common ancestors are the creatures Jesus made temporarily since they are all subject to Death. Most of the time, I debate those who believe in the false ToE since it is easily refuted, Scripturally, scientifically, historically, genetically and mathematically. I do show that descent with modification within His and Their kinds is the way God creates. Do you have any evolutionists on this board? If so, I can show you how to refute them in every way. Amen?
     
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    I know how to refute evolutionists thanks.

    You still have not shown how the kinds are referring to Christ and the Trinity. That doesn't work grammatically, logically, biblically, etc. It is saying made after its own kind. Kinds of animals. Has nothing to do with God or the Trinity and there is nothing you can show that it does.
     
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    The only credentials I have ever claimed is that I am just a man, living in the last days before Jesus returns. I use the KJV of Scripture and NO evolutionist has ever been able to refute a single one of the agreements I show which only someone living in the last days can possibly know. In order to insure that all Christians become Christians by Faith, God has not allowed this information to be known until the time just before Jesus returns. Daniel 12:4 It sounds strange to those who have believed by blind faith, since I show the agreement of Scripture with science, history, genetics and math which I call God's irrefutable Truth. Amen?
     
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    Ok so you are a part of some pseudo christian cult. Got it.
     
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    Who made Adam, the beasts of the Earth, birds and creeping things? Was it God or Lord God? Were the creatures made eternally or temporary. Which "living" creatures did God the Trinity make? Were these "living" creatures God the Trinity made temporary or eternal? Answer. The ones Jesus made are temporary and subject to death but to be created by God the Trinity is to be created eternally, destined for immortality in Heaven. Genesis 1:26 Genesis 5:1-2 AND John 14:16
     
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    Look we get it, you have a fantasy cult theology. I'm done with you.
     
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    No. I'm just a man but I've spent some 25 years online debating the lies of the false ToE. I have nothing to join and I never ask for money. I enjoy discussing the creation of my home in Heaven with Jesus. God bless you
     
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    You ought to stick around and learn something since your views are so easily refuted. Amen?
     
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    My view on this has yet to be refuted. You are out of your mind and have no base in Scripture. You just make it up. Not sure who told this junk to you but you should forget it because it isn't biblical.
     
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    I am not sure this guys is not a troll.
     
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    Sure it has since you claim that Adam was made on the 6th Day. Here's your refute.

    Genesis 2:4-9 states that Adam was "formed" on the 3rd Day by Lord God and "created" by God the Trinity on the present 6th Day, the Day of Salvation. Here is the refute to your thinking. Eve was NOT made until the present 6th Day Genesis 2:22 and yet both A&E were "created" by God the Trinity AFTER Cain killed Abel Genesis 5:1-2 at the same time. Every man is first born physically and some are "created" by God the Trinity..

    2Co 6:2 (For He saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

    Amen?
     
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    Except it says no such thing. You are reading that into the text. Nowhere do you see that in Sripture it self.
     
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    Can anyone explain HOW a man, who lived 3k years ago, KNEW and correctly wrote these recently discovered scientific facts?

    1. Genesis 1:21 shows that every living creature that moveth was made from water on the 5th Day. Science recently discovered the same. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/s...-ancestor.html Jul 25, 2016

    5. Genesis 1:1 correctly shows that Water was not created but came forth from Heaven or air.

    It's testable proof of God. Amen?
     
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    Here's proof that you have been proven wrong Scripturally and yet you continue to say the verses don't say what I showed you when you first started disagreeing.

    Ben West:>>Then it should be easy for you to refute me Scripturally.

    Gen 2:4 ¶ These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the daythat the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

    The Lord made Adam's Earth and other HeavenS plural on the SAME Day, the 3rd Day. Adam's Heaven was made the SECOND Day. Genesis 1:8

    Gen 2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.Gen 2:6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

    Plants and trees GREW on the 3rd Day.

    Gen 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after His kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after His kind: and God saw that it was good.

    On the 3rd Day, the same Day the first Earth was made, but BEFORE plants, herbs and rain......

    Gen 2:7 ¶ And the LORD God formed man (Hebrew-Adam) of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

    AND before the Trees grew the Lord made Adam. To confirm this read the next verses:.

    Gen 2:8 ¶And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there He put the man whom He had formed. Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

    Do you still think I'm "off base"? Can you refute the above? Of course not. All you have is name calling and false accusations and every one can see that. Have a nice Day.
     
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    You have not given us proof of anything. You make an outlandish claim, attach some scripture to it and say this is evidence. Well its not. Break it down for us. Bolding specific words is not proof.
     
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    Would you like me to prove your views wrong Scripturally since you cannot prove my view wrong? All you continue to say is provable false. More study is indicated. Go ahead and stick your neck out and tell us about Genesis.
     
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    You have not given us proof of anything. You make an outlandish claim, attach some scripture to it and say this is evidence. Well its not. Break it down for us. Bolding specific words is not proof.
     
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    Genesis 2:4-9 is clear that Adam was "formed" by Lord God on the 3rd Day BEFORE the plants, herbs, rain and Trees. Genesis 1:12 is clear that plants and TREES grew on the 3rd Day. Now, it's your time to post Scripture which shows that Adam was "formed" from the dust of the ground on the 6th Day. You cannot. You can show that Adam and Eve were "created" in God's Image on the present 6th Day but I'm asking you to support your idea that Adam was NOT first made or formed by Lord God on the 3rd Day. I suspect that you will run away or continue to obfuscate. Fool me.

    Proof that Adam was made BEFORE any other creature is within your bloodstream because you only have 23 pairs of chromosomes instead of the 24 shown in prehistoric beings. Chromosome 2 fusion happens when an older group of people (Humans) marries and produces children with a younger group of people. (prehistoric people). Your view is therefore refuted by Scripture AND Science. Amen?
     
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    I have never said that.

    No, not amen ( I do not understand why you do that) you do not know my view.
     
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    BenWest said:
    I'm asking you to support your idea that Adam was NOT first made or formed by Lord God on the 3rd Day.

    I know but Genesis 2:4-9 clearly does and I haven't seen you refute those verses. Tell us what you think the verses, which detail that Adam was made by the Lord on the 3rd Day, are saying.

    Sure I did and I detailed what Genesis 2:4-9 is teaching. FYI, That's God's Truth Scripturally.
     
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