Are Baptist Men Male Chauvanists?

mcdirector,

now thats how I think a man ought to be, and thats biblical... they should be the head of the house, because the Bible says so, but also it says to love your wives and so on.

Because I think it says they should love their wives like Jesus loves the church.

Kind of like where the bible says "children obey your parents" but then it also says "parents provoke not your children".

its a mutal respect thing, I think. Im a little bit confused about the woman speaking in church thing because the bible talks about women prophets...

Plus the PMS sermons would be awful, probably everyone in your neighborhood would be wondering why, for an entire week everyone in your household was behaving so well. (only kidding)

Claudia

 

Im sorry about acting so weird but I re-injured by foot from a dancing injury 20 years ago. This time it isnt getting any better and for some reason I cant even sit down at a chair without nt foot turning purple and now my right foot is doing the same thing. Ive been having to lie down for weeks because lying flat is the only way mny feet stay "normal".

I went to a few orthopedic specialists but no bone injuries on the x ray. No blood clots either on the tests. My orthopedic doctor is doing tests on me but not till the 26th of April, meanwhile other foot had started doing the same thing. She said theres possible nerve damage.

Im so scared because it is progressing. sometimes I have to lie on my right side just to keep my left foot from turning purple. I cant imagine if my other foot progresses to the same point because I cant lie on mhy left side and right at the same time.


It turns purple and swells and feels like its going to almost burst and what if it gets to where it does it when Im laying down too?

My husband is always gone, In Ohio 3 days this week then New Orleans for a week, etc and I dont have a car. Ive almost had to call 911 a few times at night because it felt like myh hert was beating so hard...

anyway Ive been laying down so much I cant stand it anymore and so I have been just trying to post stuff on this baptist board to divert my mind from it all so I wont think about it and be scared all the time.

Im wondering if I shouold go see a vascular surgeon instead of this orthopedic doctor.

Before its too late.

Im just posting stuff so I can diviert my mind off this, its hard lying here day after day alone... my mind starts maybe blowing things out of proportion, like I wonder if I will be like this for the rest of my life, etc...


I guess I just said the Chauvanist thing as a joke, I use stupid humor sometimes to divert my mind from all the stuff Ive been going through here lately.

I did come up with a foot doctor joke too, like, instead of a walk-in patient I could be a limp-in patient. Just trying to make myself laugh.

I am basically all alone through all of this. Then theres the whole other part of this thats happening to me at the same time, which is just as bad, that I wont bother you with... but its all just too much for me to take. especially since Im a big baby to start with anyway. I dont understand why these doctors are making me wait so long for them to do anything about this.

I just thought the Baptist Chauvanist thing was kind of funny and something different to talk about. No harm intended.

Actually, I have always thought of this Baptist Board as an exceptionally nice place and I'd be one to defend the Baptists if anyone said anything bad about you, even though I probably dont know much about you. I think you are a very nice group of people.

Claudia

 

heres some stuff from my church that I just now looked up a minute ago. I wont post anymore than this... but these statements always seemed a little contradictory to me but I guess not, because its pretty much what the Bible says too.
I guess you have to hav the right balance with things...

The Adventist Home, page 115, paragraph 2
Chapter Title: Mutual Obligations
Eve had been perfectly happy by her husband's side in her Eden home; but, like restless modern Eves, she was flattered with the hope of entering a higher sphere than that which God had assigned her. In attempting to rise above her original position, she fell far below it. A similar result will be reached by all who are unwilling to take up cheerfully their life duties in accordance with God's plan.

Letters to Young Lovers, page 48, paragraph 4
Chapter Title: Looking for Help
The mother needs the help of her child, and when she will become a few years older, she will understand better how to choose a husband who will make her life smooth and happy. A woman who will submit to be ever dictated to in the smallest matters of domestic life, who will yield up her identity, will never be of much use or blessing in the world and will not answer the purpose of God in her existence. She is a mere machine, to be guided by another's will and another's mind. God has given each one, men and women, an identity, an individuality. All must act in the fear of God for themselves.
Mind, Character, and Personality Volume 1, page 154, paragraph 3

Chapter Title: Security in the Home
We have an individuality of our own, and the wife's individuality is never to be sunk into that of her husband. God is our Creator. We are His by creation, and we are His by redemption. We want to see how much we can render back to God, because He gives us the moral power, He gives us the efficiency, He gives us the intellect; and He wants us to make the most of these precious gifts to His name's glory.--MS 12, 1895.
Testimonies on Sexual Behavior, Adultery, and Divorce., page 28, paragraph 2
Chapter Title: Marriage
We women must remember that God has placed us subject to the husband. He is the head, and our judgment and views and reasonings must agree with his, if possible. If not, the preference in God's Word is given to the husband where it is not a matter of conscience. We must yield to the head.--Letter 5, 1861.

 

Hi Ben,


It looks like you have pretty much the same beliefs as we do. Do all Baptists have basically the same beliefs exept for on the sabbath issue?

Also, when you say you believe that we will get an immortal body, etc, at the second coming of Christ, do Seventh Day Baptists believe that when you die though, you either go right to heaven or hell?

Im just curious if your beliefs are the same as ours in that respect. Because we believe we stay "asleep" in the grave till the resurrection.

Do all Baptists believe that you have to repent of sin, or do some of them think that all you have to do is believe in Christ?

We believe in Baptism by immersion too.

Claudia

 

Ben,

Wow, that seems strange to me that some Baptists would believe in the freewill and others dont, that to me is dfferent as night and day. So its like the Baptism by immersion is the only real thing holding them together as far as what they have in common and what makes them unique from the other churches, I guess.

In our denomination we have the Historic SDAs wno hold to the early original teachings and then we have the Liberal SDAs (they dont really have a "name" they are called I guess, so I just call them Liberal). They have what we call the "New Theology" which in my opinion basically waters down and gets rid of our old historic "Landmarks" and makes it where they really arent even true Seventh Day Adventists anymore.

The Historic SDAs believe that Jesus took upon Himself our sinful human nature yet overcame all sin and was without sin. He felt all the temptations we do but came as a human being and oversame all sin and all of that. (not in any way do we believe Jesus was a sinner, people seem to misunderstand that)...

Romans 8:3: For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.


Heb:2:16: For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

Heb:4:15: For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

The idea is that because Jesus became a man and with sinful human flesh overcame all sin, He by doing that "condemned sin in the flesh" and showed us that as human beings we too can overcome sin by faith, as Jesus did.

We Historic SDAs view that as one big difference between Protestantism and Roman Catholicism because Catholics teach that since Jesus was born of Virgin Mary He didnt have a sinful human nature (or something like that, not sure how to explain it)... anyway because of this basic teaching, the Liberal Adventists end up teaching that "all you have to do is have a relationship with Jesus and everything is ok" "works dont really matter" and so on.

But anyway, then eventually, because our church was being labeled a "cult" by Walter Martin and others, our church leaders went and watered down that teaching, and then suddenly we werent viewed as a cult anymore.

Thats the basic difference beween the two "types" of Seventh Day Adventists.

..and of course the Liberal SDAs end up throwing out much of the teachings of EG White since she really does rebuke sin alot and they dont appreciate that...


Its interesting to me to see the different views on things churches have.

Ellen White was a Methodist to start with so thats probably where they got the Methodist lineage thing from.


Claudia

[ April 14, 2006, 03:02 PM: Message edited by: Claudia_T ]