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I thought this was old news...

 

This is old news, back in February. I don't have any reason to like the guy, as he seems like a typical megachurch pastor (treating Christians as consumers, not disciples). But, most of the charges against him seem trumped-up.

 

This comes across as petty and revengeful

 

Julie is constantly going after Macdonald. I don't know him and I am not defending him. But she has even accused of him making plots to murder multiple people.

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The man is not qualified as an elder.

He may think he is, but he is not.

His character and greed have disqualified him.

But some will not abide in this strict view and chase after all manner of excuses that their ears be tickled.

 

Prove it

 

Did you read the elder board statement to the congregation?

 

@McCree79 and @Revmitchell have both questioned the integrity of the article writer from the OP.

I really don’t know anything about the writer, what based my conclusions on where the sound work of the elder body.

Quote from the elder body:

The results of the investigation have led us to conclude that James had a substantial pattern of sinful behavior in the following areas.

1. Above Reproach (Titus 1:6)–“To be above reproach is to have a reputation for being blameless and honorable.” The accusations against James are of great quantity and continue to be brought forward. His character should have been such that this magnitude of accusations would not have been believable. But sadly, James’ reputation does not defend his character. Instead, his reputation affirms many of the accusations against him as plausible.
2. Respectable (1 Timothy 3:2)–The antithesis of being respectable is to be disruptive. We found that James had a pattern of being disruptive in public and private settings at the expense of other people’s well-being.
3. Upright (Titus 1:8)–We found that James failed to meet the standard of dealing with others fairly and honorably. At times, he misrepresented gifts paid for by the church as gifts from him personally.
4. Not Arrogant or Violent (Titus 1:7)–James’ behavior and language indicated that he thought of himself more highly than he should as evidenced by his pattern of insulting, belittling and verbally bullying others.
5. Not Quick-Tempered or Quarrelsome (Titus 1:7; 1 Timothy 3:3)–We found James had a pattern of quickly becoming angry, manifesting itself in unmerited force and frequency. James’ behavior was of that of a combative person who insisted on his own ways and failed to cultivate peace.
6. Not Domineering (1 Peter 5:3)–We found that James had a pattern of improperly exercising his positional and spiritual authority over others to his own advantage.
7. Not Greedy for Gain or A Lover of Money (Titus 1:7; 1 Timothy 3:3)–We found that James made repeated efforts to profit himself beyond what was honorable. There was a pattern of extravagant spending utilizing church resources resulting in personal benefit.
8. Disciplined (Titus 1:8)–James failed to keep his emotions under control. The failure is not in the dynamic range of his personality, but in the lack of self-discipline, which an Elder should display in a bridled tongue and sound speech.
9. Self-Controlled and Sober-Minded (Titus 1:8; 1 Timothy 3:2)–We found that James had a pattern of acting on sudden impulses with insufficient deference to wise but differing views. In some of the most crucial moments where James needed to be calm and cautiously wise, he was hasty and reckless.

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Even one of these is enough to disqualify, but nine of them!

The man might be able to sweep the floors and carry out the garbage at an assembly, but cannot serve again as an elder or deacon.

Yet, someone will, and what character flaws will yet be shown.

 

Prove it is sound work

 

Mitchell, the findings were stated before all, published for all.

The communication was not from a single author, nor was such without historical fact findings. But were proved by the Scripture standard.

That you have some need to defend James McDonald is a bit telling.

Perhaps you can find fault with what the board laid as authoritative, and if so, print that which they reported and show how they erred.

If you think they did not follow the Scriptures as they went through the processes of investigation, print what exactly the violation that all my find fault, also.

If you cannot take what this churches ruling authorities stated as factual and Scriptural, then perhaps you have information they need that should be presented that they make apologies and recantations.

 

I havent defended him. Just because the church said it doesnt make it so.

 

Actually, that is opposite of the truth.

Can you see a place in Scripture we’re ones to look at other than the rebuke by the church of an elder when that man is obstinate and unrepentant?

 

We cant know he was those things we were not there

 

I just read a statement by James McDonald of confession and repentance for those actions on his part.

It seems there were some in the church who had their agendas and were unwilling to work things out. It appears the response by some in the church was also ungodly.

I pray the Lord heals both.

 

When I read the vague complaints against this pastor, I think of the accusations that President Trump is racist. I've seen no real evidence that Trump has a racist bone in his body, but it doesn't stop the Left from constantly screaming that Trump is racist.

That pastor might not have the best personality, but this whole thing stinks of politics.

You should also realize that everyone at that church complaining about that pastor chose to go there when he was already pastor. They chose to stay at that church while he was pastor. People don't change. The pastor hasn't changed from before they started going. What changes are political maneuvers.

 

The facts are not in dispute.

McDonald has admitted as much.

As a result, the admission itself means he must also admit to violating the office of elder and is no longer capable of serving.


There is no “confess” and no consequence.

Until he has over a great amount of time proven himself to that assembly as not only repentant but changed, he cannot serve.


Be more point.

It also doesn’t change the facts if some came about this with personal agenda.

Trump doesn’t seem (as Nixon and Clinton also didn’t) that others having an agenda doesn’t change the facts, neither seemingly do some posting on the thread concerning McDonald.

Narcissistic folks have no capacity to grasp this nuance in their behavioral scheme.

The reports I have read present such as the personality of McDonald.

Narcissistic personalities do not fit the place of elder.

 

Thanks for your ......opinion

 

Your welcome.