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The Kingdom of God

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Iconoclast, Nov 12, 2019.

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    Do you agree or disagree, and why?


    The Kingdom of God is a Social Order — Lamb's Reign

    The answer to the chaos that the modern world faces is therefore the revival of Christianity as public truth, i.e. as the religious foundation of our civilisation, in terms of which both individual men and nations, with their civil governments, must organise their whole life by conforming to the precepts and teachings of the Bible. In other words Christianity must be the established religion of all nations. This is precisely what the Great Commission commands us to pursue.

    But this will not be possible without the manifestation of the Kingdom of God in the lives of both individual Christians and the Christian communities of all nations as a concrete social order that models to the world what true society should be, and by doing this calls the world to repentance and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Without the manifestation on earth in tangible form of this prophetic social order the world will not be won for Christ. The Christian community is to be a light to the world. Only as that light is seen, i.e. only as Christians are seen living as a real social order that transforms the whole life of man, will the world be drawn to it:

    “And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord’s house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many peoples: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up swords against nation, neither shall they learn war any more” (Is. 2:2–4).

    The kingdom of God is talked about a great deal among Christians. But it is never defined. This is because the worldview of most Christians is dualistic, and the spirituality that dominates their understanding of the faith is a kind of Christianised Gnosticism. This is what pietism is. But in the pietistic/dualistic worldview it becomes impossible to realise the kingdom of God in a tangible form, and this is why Christians endlessly talk about it but can never explain what it is. Ask a Christian what the kingdom of God is. Ten to one you won’t get a proper answer, just a lot of pious waffle about kingdom values and kingdom principles at best, and more than likely a load of super-spiritual nonsense that is no more than thinly disguised dualism.
     
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    Deut4:
    7 For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the Lord our God is in all things that we call upon him for?

    8 And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?
     
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    Deut11:
    13 And it shall come to pass, if ye shall hearken diligently unto my commandments which I command you this day, to love the Lord your God, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul,

    14 That I will give you the rain of your land in his due season, the first rain and the latter rain, that thou mayest gather in thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil.

    15 And I will send grass in thy fields for thy cattle, that thou mayest eat and be full.

    16 Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them;

    17 And then the Lord's wrath be kindled against you, and he shut up the heaven, that there be no rain, and that the land yield not her fruit; and lest ye perish quickly from off the good land which the Lord giveth you.

    18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

    19 And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

    20 And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates:

    21 That your days may be multiplied, and the days of your children, in the land which the Lord sware unto your fathers to give them, as the days of heaven upon the earth.

    22 For if ye shall diligently keep all these commandments which I command you, to do them, to love the Lord your God, to walk in all his ways, and to cleave unto him;

    23 Then will the Lord drive out all these nations from before you, and ye shall possess greater nations and mightier than yourselves.
     
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    Deut.12:28
    Observe and hear all these words which I command thee, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee for ever, when thou doest that which is good and right in the sight of the Lord thy God.

    29 When the Lord thy God shall cut off the nations from before thee, whither thou goest to possess them, and thou succeedest them, and dwellest in their land;

    30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.

    31 Thou shalt not do so unto the Lord thy God: for every abomination to the Lord, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.

    32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.


    Israel had a job to do, they failed.
    The Nt. church will not fail.
     
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    And the LORD said unto him, Call his name Jezreel; for yet a little while, and I will avenge the blood of Jezreel upon the house of Jehu, and will cause to cease the kingdom of the house of Israel. And she conceived again, and bare a daughter. And God said unto him, Call her name Loruhamah: for I will no more have mercy upon the house of Israel; but I will utterly take them away. But I will have mercy upon the house of Judah, and will save them by the LORD their God, and will not save them by bow, nor by sword, nor by battle, by horses, nor by horsemen. Hosea 1:4,6,7

    A. The house of Israel - The Kingdom of Israel existed roughly from 930 BCE until 720 BCE, when it was conquered by the Neo-Assyrian Empire.
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    Israel is swallowed up: now shall they be among the Gentiles as a vessel wherein is no pleasure. I have written to him the great things of my law, but they were counted as a strange thing. Hosea 8:8,12

    B. The house of Judah - These deportations are dated to 597 BCE for the first, with others dated at 587/586 BCE, and 582/581 BCE respectively.[3] -
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    Now there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, from every nation under heaven … how hear we, every man in our own language wherein we were born? Parthians and Medes and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, in Judaea and Cappadocia, in Pontus and Asia, in Phrygia and Pamphylia, in Egypt and the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and sojourners from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabians, we hear them speaking in our tongues the mighty works of God. Acts 2:5,8-11
    For Moses from generations of old hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath. Acts 15:21

    Who built those synagogues ?
     
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    If I had to guess it was Jews...by the design of God, of course. :)
     
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