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Providential Preservation

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Van, Sep 28, 2019.

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    Van Well-Known Member
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    As a Minimalist, I look at verses and ask, "What is the least that God could be saying?" If we look at Romans 15:4 we see that at least the intended message had been preserved from when it was written to when it provided its encouragement in the 1st century. We cannot draw the conclusion it was preserved perfectly, but only sufficiently for God's purpose. This does not rule out inerrancy in the original autographs, or providential preservation. It simply acknowledges the truth clearly taught by Paul.

    Similarly in 2 Timothy 3:16 we see Paul teaching that the OT scriptures were trustworthy and reliable, hence preserved adequately, for instruction, and reproof. Now more can be read into it, but less cannot be claimed without loss of integrity.

    Lets underline the difference between Providence and Miraculous Preservation. My understanding is "providence" refers to God "providing" for us in various ways. He established natural law and to the extent nature provides for our needs, i.e. abundant fish in the sea for food, we can thank God for His providence. But the second way God provides is by His altering or not, the unfixed future such that His purpose is fulfilled, thus needed rain may come from from the provision provided by nature or God arranging specifically for rain, but either way, we are to be thankful.

    The third way God provides for us is through creative miracles, where He intervenes and causes events that had nature run its course, would not have occurred. Jesus walking on water, or arising from the dead were sign and wonder miracles to demonstrate God was the cause, rather than natural happenstance.

    Now lets consider a very good verse, which supposedly supports the doctrine of Divine Preservation of Special Revelation, the Inspired Scriptures of the Old and New Testament.

    Matthew 24:35 says, "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away." Here we have something that cannot be sidestepped, Christ's words refers to Special Revelation to us, and therefore will be "preserved" over time so that we may hear the gospel and believe and be saved. This was so important a teaching that we can find the very same "words" at Mark 13:31 and Luke 21:33.

    Another verse, and the last I will offer is Psalms 119:152. Here the text refers to "testimonies" that endure forever. Just as with Christ's words enduring, they (words and testimonies) must endure in written form. These verses in God's word specifically and clearly teach God's promise to preserve His word to the extent His purpose is fulfilled.

    In summary, Romans 15:4, 2 Timothy 3:16, Matthew 24:35, Mark 13:31, Luke 21:33, and Psalms 119:152 teach the doctrine of Providential Preservation of Scripture. This includes to a degree, even some parts of some translations, as demonstrated by inspired New Testament authors quoting the Septuagint as scripture.

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    Actually all writings God had brearthed. Not just the writings referred to in verse 15 before it.
     
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    Yes, we can say "All scripture is God-breathed scripture" and "All God breathed scripture is scripture." The issue is what was Paul's intended meaning, was he including NT writings, or was he referring to the scriptures as viewed by Hebrews at that time? I do not know. So being a minimalist, Paul at a minimum was referring to the OT.
     
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    Paul was refering to holy scripture that Timoty grow up with 2 Timothy 3:15. What is said about OT scripture applies to NT scripture (Matthew 4:4).
     
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    I agree, Paul was probably referring to the recognized scripture that Timothy grew up with, and I agree, we can now apply 2 Timothy 3:16 to the recognized NT scripture. But rather than Matthew 4:4, I would cite 2 Peter 3:16.
     
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