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Has God already rested?

Discussion in 'Creation vs. Evolution' started by BenWest, Nov 13, 2019.

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  1. BenWest

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    I have no theories but I do have God's Holy Word which agrees in every way with every discovery of mankind. Below is a simple example.

    In Genesis 1:1 God tells us that He created the air and the ground BUT He did not say that He created Water. Science has discovered the same thing since water was NOT created but came from two gases within the air, exactly as God told us, 3k years ago.. It's proof of God AND one of many Scriptural facts which confirm that we are living today in the last days before Jesus returns. Amen?

    BTW, I agree with all scientific facts (Not Theories) and I show that the false ToE is the biggest Satanic Lie ever forced upon our children in the Public Schools of our country.
     
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    Ok, you are clearly not capable of understanding basic theology. I never said Angels aren't living. But they are not a living thing that moves on the earth (in normal circumstances). They are not included in Gen 1:28.
    What opinion did you not read? I gave you an academic paper that chronicles the meaning of the word Yom in Genesis and it gives plenty of Scriptural support. So until you read it and interact with it I'm done here because you clearly aren't interested in actual discussion.
     
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    But Gen. 1:1 sez that God's spirit moved upon...THE FACE OF THE WATERS. So, water (and the earth) was already existing.

    This present world is God's re-arrangement of an already-existing planet.
     
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    Sure they are as the following verse shows:

    1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

    I use the online Strong's interpretation of the word Yowm or Day. It means any period of time including Eternity. I don't read men's opinions since many give us their personal opinion and proclaim it as fact.
     
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    God the invisible Spirit moved or brooded on the face of the waters in the Multiverse BEFORE the first Day. Genesis 1:2 This shows the contempt that God had when He first viewed the darkness or death which was upon everything He had created apart from Himself, in the beginning. God made the 1st Heaven on the 2nd Day. Genesis 1:8 It was a small Heaven which was placed in the midst of Water with Water above and below it. Genesis 1:6-7 It was later totally destroyed in the flood. 2 Peter 3:6

    The present Cosmos/Universe was made by LORD God or Jesus on the 3rd Day, the SAME Day Adam's Earth was made, according to Genesis 2:4. Jesus took some of the air, dust and water which God made before the 1st Day, changed it BACK into energy, which cooled and produced our physical world. Billy Graham said that he wished he could have been there when Jesus scattered the Stars throughout our world. Me too.
     
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    Yeah, this is deceptive at best. It has multiple meanings and uses and you only choose the one that fits your viewpoint conveniently. That's not a honest way to interpret Scripture nor a sound way to do so and explains much of your errors.
     
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    What errors? Can you please be more specific? Some dismiss that which is True, in favor of the opposite, for no good reason. Are there any people here who don't judge others? Someone said:

    The truth is offensive to those who wish to reject it. And, could it be, that when feelings are hurt by hearing the truth it isn’t really their feelings but their conscience tugging at their soul because they know they are in the wrong?
     
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    Your errors such as days are not days but ages, or that man was created on day three despite it saying day six, or that day seven has not yet happened.
     
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    Yes someone did say that and they are 100% correct in that statement. That same person, who happens to be me, is also 100% correct about your errors in this thread.
     
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    I am just a man and filled with errors. I've never found anything which agreed with Scripture, science, history, genetics and math, and I have begged and pleaded with others for many years, but NONE of them has been able to show me my error in the story of Genesis in ANY way. Get specific and you will find that my view agrees with Scripture and every other discovered Truth of mankind. It's not me, but it is proof of God and proof that we are living in the last days on the present last Day in the Creation.. Amen?
     
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    Genesis 1:27 shows that Adam (mankind) was "created" by God the Trinity on the 6th Day. Genesis 2:4-9 shows that Adam was formed or shaped like a sculpture by the Hands of LORD God (Hebrew-YHWH) which is the name of Jesus in the KJV of the O.T. Can you tell us WHY everything Jesus forms from the ground which is cursed, destined for burning, is a temporary creation, subject to DEATH? and that everything which God the Trinity "creates" is an Eternal Creation?
     
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    Plainly, by Scripture, we see God re-arranged an already-existing earth, as His Spirit moved over THE FACE OF THE WATERS. He caused land to appear above water again, & created fauna & flora upon both land & water.

    Before that time, there'd been another face of the earth, which is apparent in fossils being found all over the world.

    Many of the animals that have gone extinct were better-equipped to survive than many of today's critters are. For instance, the leading cause of elephant deaths in the wild is that their teeth become so worn that they can't chew their food enough to digest it. Mammoths & mastodons could live in a much-greater climate variety, & their teeth were much-harder than those of today's elephants. The woolly rhino was also able to live in cold or warm climates. The Beringian lion was larger than today's lions, adapted for all climates, and maneless. It had better claws & teeth than modern lions have.

    Now, these, & many other animals, should have survived into our time. Apparently, some disaster or series of disasters exterminated them. Some day, I believe God will let us know.
     
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    Out of context, since God the invisible Spirit brooded, after just seeing that everything He had just created, was filled with darkness or death. As He floated above the surface of the water, He spoke His first recorded Words saying, "Let there be Light" and that is when the LORD Jesus entered the physical world from within the invisible Spirit of the Son of God. Jesus IS the Physical Light of the first Day. He will defeat the darkness or death, which was upon everything God had created and He will provide a way for us to go to a perfect physical Heaven.

    Just before His crucifixion, Jesus prayed to the Father of that time BEFORE the world was, the 1st Day.
    Jhn 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou Me with Thine own self with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was.

    Jesus is surrounded by a Shekinah Glory or Brightness, which blinded Saul on road to Damascus. Adam also had this brightness BEFORE he sinned as was left in a body of flesh. Gen 3:7

    Adam's world/universe was UNDERWATER. Genesis 1:6-8 Adam's Earth was very small when compared to the present Earth. The mountains were covered with water when the water reached a depth of 22.5 Feet. (15 cubits) according to Genesis 7:20 His Earth was flat and also totally destroyed in the flood, according to 2 Peter 3:6

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    99% of all species have gone extinct and counting. It's required in order to recycle our temporary world, which is scheduled to be burned. 2 Peter 3:10

    He already has. Science has learned much in the last 3,000 years. Do you think the Truth of Science is different from God's Truth? Of course not. Science Truth is factual, repeatable Truth and it is not a Theory, subject to change. History has also recorded Truth, and so has Genetics and Math in the past 3,000 years. When you do, you will find that Genesis AGREES. It's proof of God. God bless you
     
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    Nonsense.

    Adam lived on the same earth WE do. And this planet is VERY old.
     
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    We don't know when or by what means God ended the world of the mammoth & saber tooth cat, & how long it sat covered with water til He made the present arrangement, but He did just THAT. Genesis 1 shows us that He re-arranged the earth into its present configuration, not just simply making it from nothing at that time. He'd already done that, long-before.
     
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    Which Day was Adam's firmament, which God called Heaven made? Genesis 1:8
    Which Day was the present Heaven made? Genesis 2:4

    Planet Earth is some 4.53 Billion years old in man's time. It was made at the end of the 3rd Day, in God's time which agrees in every way with every other discovered Truth of Science History Genetics and Math. Want Scripture?
     
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    Sure do. I've seen them re-created at the Smithsonian, along with their bones.

    This Earth has NEVER been covered in a flood. It was Adam's world, made on the 2nd Day, Genesis 1:8 which was totally destroyed in the flood. 2 Peter 3:3-7 shows that the "Scoffers of the last days", will be willingly ignorant of the fact that Adam's entire world is gone and the present world is destined to burn. Now, maybe you understand that the 3rd Heaven is NOT in the present Cosmos, but beyond our world.

    Actually, God the Trinity changed some of the Energy in the Multiverse into matter, in the physical world. At the end of the 3rd Day, in God's time, Jesus changed some physical BACK into energy which cooled and formed our world some 13.8 Billion years ago in man's time. At the end of the 5th Day, some 9 Billion years after the Big Bang, our Earth was formed from the dust of the first Stars, 4.53 Billion years ago, in man's time. Yesterday in God's Time. That is God's Truth Scripturally.
     
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