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Christianity Today Editor Says His Call For Impeachment Was ‘Hyperbole’

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  1. Revmitchell

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    Christianity Today editor Mark Galli said Sunday that his call for evangelical Christians to support impeachment was “hyperbole,” and he admitted “the pro-life issue is just one of many” where President Donald Trump is in sync with evangelicals.

    “In one sense my call for his removal was on the order of hyperbole in this regard: the odds of that happening by election or by the Senate are actually probably fairly slim at this point,” Galli told CBS News’ “Face the Nation,” admitting later, “I don’t have a strategy” and telling journalists, “You guys figure that out.”

    Galli’s editorial last week, in a magazine that was founded by evangelist Billy Graham, engendered both anger and disbelief with a faith group that solidly supports the Trump presidency. Franklin Graham not only criticized Galli’s opinion but declared that his father had voted for Trump.

    “What I’m really arguing in the piece fundamentally is that the president is unfit for office,” Galli’s said Sunday. “Now, that may be a distinction without a difference, but the point is, and I’m not really speaking politically. I’m not making a political judgment, because that’s not our expertise at Christianity Today. I am making a moral judgment that he’s morally unfit … ” (RELATED: Evangelical Leader Says Christianity Today Magazine Should Be Called ‘Christianity Yesterday’)

    But Galli then said he wasn’t judging Trump for his personal morality but his public morality. “None of us are perfect. We’re not looking for saints. We do have private sins, ongoing patterns of behavior that reveal themselves in our private life that we’re all trying to work on. But a president has certain responsibilities as a public figure to display a certain level of public character and public morality and the point of my argument is not to judge him as a person in the eyes of God. That’s not my job.”

    Then the editor agreed that Trump is promoting a number of issues that appeal to Christians and acknowledged this is probably why so many of them support his presidency.

    Christianity Today Editor Says His Call For Impeachment Was ‘Hyperbole’
     
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    So what he really means is when the heat came he instantly melted. Scumbags true colors on display for all. He outraged us (right) with his orig article. Now he outrages the left.
     
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    Don’t put it in print if you are not ready to defend it.

    Peace to you
     
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    How is Galli wrong?
    The President has done many things that all Christians will applaud and should applaud. Yet, he continually mistreats people whom he sees as enemies first and fellow citizens second. He takes to Twitter with comments that have no Christ-like message in them. He refuses to turn the other cheek. He shows little resemblance to Jesus message in the Sermon on the Mount. His claim to be a Christian is not reinforced by his words or actions in regard to humanity.

    Do I respect him because God has placed him in authority? Yes. Absolutely. Do I cringe when he comments on Twitter and in campaign stops? Yes. I do not see the virtuous person that God requires of His children. To that end I pray for President Trump. We all struggle with sin. When sin is pointed out, we can repent or we can seek revenge. Of the two responses, which one do we see in President Trump?
    How I wish it were the first response.
     
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    Hyperbole? What a weasel. He tosses a live "grenade" into the room and when questioned about the damage, claims it was just a joke to scare people.
     
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    this guy again. He sure doesn't sound like his far-left rant has trip[led subscribers at all. He is just trying to close the God gap, and someone at that same paper endorsed Hillary Clinton last time. I think the outfit is on the right of the social issues, to the left on everything else, and everything else is more important than the social issues. That's the opinion of the Religious Left, and that's their opinion. He says:

    Trump’s evangelical supporters have pointed to his Supreme Court nominees, his defense of religious liberty, and his stewardship of the economy, among other things, as achievements that justify their support of the president

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    ike Hillary would have done so much better? Then he says:


    Can we say with a straight face that abortion is a great evil that cannot be tolerated and, with the same straight face, say that the bent and broken character of our nation’s leader doesn’t really matter in the end?


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    ol. as if Hillary had anything but a "bent and broken character" and she loved that great evil Mark CAN tolerate. Oh, well, he's entitled to his opinion, even if it's sanctimonious and self-righteous beyond belief. But I'll always value Rev. Graham's more.
     
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    He is not claiming that it's "just a joke". In this interview, he states unambiguously that Trump is fundamentally unfit for the office.
    He is restating his thesis, not walking it back. This is patent with even a cursory reading!
     
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    This is a strawman argument.
    Straw man - Wikipedia
     
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    Mark had the straw man - :trump is unfit for office, he needs to be removed, can't keep supporting him because of his actions because .. . . ORANGE MAN BAD!!! He didn't say he wanted Pence in, did he? Anything but.

    This is nothing new. CT has been howling about Trump's immorality since day one. I think Mark here realized they weren't about to remove Trump and this was a Hail Mary. Orange man bad.
     
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    Did CT advocate Clinton's removal back in 1998 over his known immorality? Or was not even hyperbole a factor back then?

    It all sounds to me like the true evangelical backlash is beginning to hit CT in the pocketbook, with loss of advertising revenue and subscription cancellations starting to occur. (I would cancel, but I stopped reading CT years ago over its questionable progressive social and political policies).
     
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    He claims to have no animus against Christians who disagree with him, but doesn't mind trash-talking their work ethic and educational level. He claims he is not speaking politically, but that is all he is doing in the guise of Christian morality, which he is trouncing in the process. He also says he wants every type of morality to succeed and claims Trump is in the way of that.

    I suspect he may not have meant to state it so clearly, but he most definitely made the LGBTQ+ agenda the deciding factor in his diatribe against the president, stating that he himself and CT actively promote the LGBTQ+ agenda and think Trump's presidency is a deterrent to its advancement.

    "We want the United States, everybody—left, right, black, white, of a variety of sexualitieswe want them to prosper. And I'm saying that, given the moral character, the public moral character of our president, that's not going to happen. It's likely to degenerate radically over the next__ and it has already degenerated. And it's time for us to put a stake in the ground and say, 'No more.'" [4:29]
     
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    Morally unfit according to what?
     
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    According to LGBTQ+ standards. Trump is standing in the way of their immoral agenda. See post #11.
     
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    I started reading this mag many years ago on the advice of a friend, but relegated it to file 13 for the same reasons after digesting several issues.
     
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