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Christianity Today: Trump Should Be Removed

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Calminian, Dec 20, 2019.

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  1. Calminian

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    I think this is the perfect example of someone complaining about a speck which harboring a log. I've never heard such blatant false witness from a professing Christian. Very hard to listen to this.
     
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    A question. Is it possible for a Christian to have a principled opposition to a President (regardless of party affiliation), although honoring the office (Romans 13:7)? In other words, choosing not to vote for and/or opposing his policies, yet respecting the fact that all leaders (good and bad) are ordained by God (Daniel 2:21; some as a blessing and some as judgment)?
     
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    Of course. We should oppose bad governing authorities, and support the good ones. Think of Paul's respect for the Roman system, and his appeals to proper authorities. Also look at his rebuke of the jailers who did not follow Roman law.
     
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    Again CHURCH matters vs STATE matters.
     
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    You are making a false separation.
     
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    Does that apply to Christians who did not vote for then-candidate Trump or who take a principled stand against him now? I am not asking this to be contentious. I just want to know if we should respect the right of a fellow Christian to disagree with us over politics. I am not referring to a Christian openly embracing ungodly things like abortion or same-sex marriage. I am thinking more about matters of policy and/or character.
     
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    CT and its editors are an embarrassment to Christians nationally and worldwide, confusing church and state, as well as confusing the politics of the situation, thus doing great disservice to the cause of Christ. Shameful.

    They have no authority or basis to call for the removal of the president. That they have the gall to so criticize the president's character given their own is hypocritical, as the president does not claim to represent Christians, whereas CT and its editors do so claim. Outrageous.
     
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    Those may be good questions, but the issue here is what CT and its editors are doing. They are singling out one officeholder as someone to castigate, while turning a blind eye to the myriad faults and evils of officeholders who oppose him, and they are doing so in the name of Christ as those who speak for Christians. There is so much hypocrisy wrapped up in their attack, along with deep political deception, that they condemn themselves by what they are doing.
     
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    Well, Christianity Today has been a pure rag for some time now. If it ever was on the right road it has long ago departed from it.
     
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    Another point CT raised illegitimately is the issue of foreign missions. Trump is not making decisions as a Christian but as the President of the United States. The leaders of foreign nations often disagree with each other and this can sometimes affect the efforts of missionaries. But, where missionaries are at least allowed, this can be minimized, and there are ways around this sort of thing.

    First, there is no biblical rule saying a missionary must be American. Also, no missionary should go in the name of his earthly country but in the name of Christ. Then, missionaries should be preaching the Gospel, not politics. American missionaries especially are exempt from having to agree with national policies. And of course missionaries are not called to involve themselves in the politics of other nations.
     
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