1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Praying the Rosary

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by skyjoy00, Jan 1, 2020.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. skyjoy00

    skyjoy00 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2019
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    4
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Hi, I have some questions regarding the rosary. First off, yes I do pray it everyday. Reason: it gave me structure in my prayer life(I wasn’t much of a Bible reader before I started) and it lets me contemplate on the life of Jesus. I feel like it’s brought me closer to Him and I believe it can be used by Baptists as well.
    Side note: I don’t believe Mary to be holy or a mediator for God. I also don’t believe she was born without sin. I simply believe she is the Mother of Jesus and that it’s okay to pray to others in Heaven. Think of it like you praying to your mother when visiting her grave and asking for her to pray for you as well.
    I wanted to ask if any other Baptists also pray the rosary? If so do you feel as I do about Mary? All the mysteries are in the Bible save for 2(the assumption of Mary and the coronation). Since neither is in scripture, I don’t believe them to be true and would like to ask what you contemplate on when praying these 2 mysteries? Thank you for listening, looking forward to replies!
     
  2. HankD

    HankD Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 14, 2001
    Messages:
    26,977
    Likes Received:
    2,536
    Faith:
    Baptist
    non-Catholics would not know what a "mystery" is when contemplating praying the rosary;
    a mystery when praying the rosary is brief stop in the repetition of prayers where the praying individual reads and ontemplates an event in the life of the LORD. Here are the mysteries.

    • Joyful Mysteries
    • The Annunciation
    • The Visitation
    • The Birth of Our Lord
    • The Presentation
    • The Finding in the Temple

    • Luminous Mysteries
    • Baptism of Jesus Christ
    • Christ Reveals Himself at Cana
    • Proclamation of the Kingdom and Call to Conversion
    • The Transfiguration
    • Institution of the Eucharist

    • Sorrowful Mysteries
    • The Agony in the Garden
    • The Scourging
    • The Crowning With Thorns
    • The Carrying of the Cross
    • The Crucifixion

    • Glorious Mysteries
    • The Resurrection
    • The Ascension
    • The Coming of the Holy Spirit
    • The Assumption of Our Lady
    • The Coronation of Our Lady
    The joyful mysteries are said on Monday and Saturday; the sorrowful mysteries on Tuesday and Friday; the glorious mysteries on Wednesday and Sunday; the luminous mysteries on Thursday.

    Most non-Catholics would not pray to Mary as well they shouldn't.

    But for the LORD's Prayer (Our Father) be careful you are not being repetitious;

    Finally go ahead and contemplate the mysterious (except the ones for Mary. It shouldn't hurt).
     
    #2 HankD, Jan 2, 2020
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2020
  3. skyjoy00

    skyjoy00 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2019
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    4
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Firstly, I would like to thank you for your reply and appreciate your feedback! I have some follow up questions regarding the comments above if you don’t mind answering them.
    1) You said non Catholics shouldn’t pray to Mary but that I could contemplate on the mysteries, except for the ones for Mary, and that it shouldn’t hurt. What do you mean by this (could you clarify)? As I said before, I don’t believe Mary to be holy or that she was born without sin so when you said that I could pray on the rosary, is that why you said it shouldn’t hurt? Because I don’t believe this to be true?
    2) What did you mean when warning me not to be repetitious on the Lord’s Prayer? What would you suggest I do?
    Again thank you for taking time to answer my questions, God bless!
     
  4. HankD

    HankD Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 14, 2001
    Messages:
    26,977
    Likes Received:
    2,536
    Faith:
    Baptist
    dont pray to Mary, she is not a goddess. but pray and meditate upon Jesus Christ - He is GOD come in the flesh.

    Jesus warned us about repetition.

    Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

    Be sincere, Be persistent not repetitious.
     
  5. skyjoy00

    skyjoy00 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2019
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    4
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Do you have any specific suggestions on which prayer/scripture I could recite to replace the Hail Marys?
     
  6. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    only God, Father/Jesus/Spirit are to be prayed to, as anything else is idolatry!
     
  7. robycop3

    robycop3 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2000
    Messages:
    14,360
    Likes Received:
    667
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Yes..."Thank You, Jesus !"
     
  8. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Or just keep to his "our Father, who art in heaven"
     
  9. Walter

    Walter Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2011
    Messages:
    2,517
    Likes Received:
    142
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Some Anglicans, Lutherans, Etc. use 'The Jesus Prayer" which is 'Jesus, son of God, have mercy'.
     
    #9 Walter, Jan 2, 2020
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2020
    • Like Like x 1
  10. Jerome

    Jerome Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2006
    Messages:
    9,788
    Likes Received:
    698
    Faith:
    Baptist
    That sounds like what was promoted at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary:

    @47:13


    Rod Dreher at SBTS: "The Jesus Prayer, I think that's something any evangelical Christian could do...it goes back to the Desert Fathers of the Early Church. [takes out cord and starts fiddling with it] These Prayer Ropes are knotted by monks, they're called chotki, C-H-O-T-K-I, you can find them online, it's just a great discipline....I'll...just say my Prayer Rope, 'Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on me'...it's a way to get into a really meditative state of mind"

    Rod Dreher
    dreher - Copy.jpg
    dreher icons - Copy.jpg


    Chotki - Wikipedia

    "Historically, the prayer rope would typically have 100 knots....and a few beads at certain intervals between the knots (usually every 10 or 25 knots) for ease in counting. Longer prayer ropes frequently have a tassel at the end...its purpose is to dry the tears shed due to heartfelt compunction for one's sins."

    "When praying, the user normally holds the prayer rope in the left hand, leaving the right hand free to make the Sign of the Cross. When not in use, the prayer rope is traditionally wrapped around the left wrist so that it continues to remind one to pray without ceasing. If this is impractical, it may be placed in the (left) pocket"
     
    #10 Jerome, Jan 2, 2020
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2020
    • Like Like x 1
  11. Hollow Man

    Hollow Man Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2019
    Messages:
    269
    Likes Received:
    38
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Can't understand why a Baptist would want to pray to the dead.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  12. HankD

    HankD Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 14, 2001
    Messages:
    26,977
    Likes Received:
    2,536
    Faith:
    Baptist
    be creative - jesus removed the Vail into the HOLY OF HOLIES, plan ahead, make a list of prayer items, praise, requests ... come into HIS presence boldly but respectful, acknowledge your sins...

    Matthew 26:40 And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?
     
  13. skyjoy00

    skyjoy00 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2019
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    4
    Faith:
    Baptist
    That’s why I’m asking for some advice. “For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.” Luke 20:38
    Thank you for this advice, it helped me so much! As well as everyone else who replied, thank you for your suggestions!
     
    • Like Like x 1
  14. Walter

    Walter Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2011
    Messages:
    2,517
    Likes Received:
    142
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Asking the alive in Christ to pray for him. Nobody praying the rosary is praying to the dead
     
  15. HankD

    HankD Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 14, 2001
    Messages:
    26,977
    Likes Received:
    2,536
    Faith:
    Baptist
    yur welcome from all of us.

    sky, stick around for a few days, months, years whatever...
     
  16. Adonia

    Adonia Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2016
    Messages:
    5,020
    Likes Received:
    941
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Isn't that word for word prayer a no, no? Why someone here said just a few weeks ago that "The Lord's Prayer" should not be recited word for word as it appears in the Scriptures. What say you?
     
  17. Adonia

    Adonia Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2016
    Messages:
    5,020
    Likes Received:
    941
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Wow, I am surprised you responded as you did. My, my, it seems that the old Catholic in you still lives.
     
  18. Adonia

    Adonia Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2016
    Messages:
    5,020
    Likes Received:
    941
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    The "Hail Mary" prayer is quite scriptural.

    1."Hail Mary, full of grace" (Or highly favored if you will).

    2."The Lord is with thee" (He certainly is).

    3."Blessed art thou amongst women" ( Scripture says she will be forever known as "blessed").

    4."And blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus". (Not even the most ardent non-Catholic can argue against those words).

    5."Holy Mary, Mother of God". (Yes she is holy and the mother of the Incarnate God here on earth).

    6. "Pray for us sinners". (She IS alive in Christ and can pray for us sinners)

    7. "Now and at the hour of our death". (Yes, at any time)

    8. "Amen" (a scriptural word if there ever was one)
     
    #18 Adonia, Jan 2, 2020
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2020
  19. Walpole

    Walpole Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2019
    Messages:
    1,068
    Likes Received:
    86
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Who believes Mary is a goddess?




    Matthew 26:44 ---> “So, leaving them again, he went away and prayed for the third time, saying the same words again.”



    Revelation 4:8 ---> "Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying: ‘Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come.'”
     
  20. skyjoy00

    skyjoy00 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2019
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    4
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Will do!
    Why would it be wrong to pray the Our Father as it is in the Bible?
    I understand that it’s in scripture, I made sure to understand the fullness of the Rosary and even asked some Catholic friends.
    If Mary is holy, could you please quote scripture that states this? I just want to do the Lord’s will and make sure that I’m following Him and not worshiping anyone above Him, for He is my Lord and Savior and I put none above Him.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Loading...