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Featured Does the day of Christ resurrection tell us to worship on Sunday?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Hobie, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. BroTom64

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    The Them in this verse are Jews who most of whom were not and are not followers of Jesus Christ.
    The him in this verse is Moses, this refers to the five books of Moses, the Pentateuch not the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
    The synagogues were and are the gathering places of the Jews, not Church, the living Body of Jesus Christ.
    The sabbath day refers to the occasion of this preaching of Moses by the Jews in the Synagogues.

    Friend, I don't preach Moses. I preach Jesus Christ. I preach Jesus Christ whenever I have opportunity Sunday -Saturday, wherever I have opportunity, and to whomever will listen. I preach to the gathered saints on Sunday as a celebration of the Life, Death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
     
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    There is no prescription in the NT as to what day we should or should not worship. There are Seventh Day Baptists, BTW.
     
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    no HE LET THEM BREAK THE SABBATH - You have blinded your own eyes.

    I will show you the truth if you admit your error,
     
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    Jesus was speaking of John 12:50 and John 13:34. So as the Apostle has explained, 1 John 3:23. 1 John 5:11-13.
     
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    GOOD keep THEM ALL - EVERY SINGLE ONE.

    there are several hundred LAWS (MITZVOUTH) For instance: The Law of Shatnez:

    Deuteronomy 22:11 Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woollen and linen together.

    If a person wears clothes on their body and the clothing fabrics are NOT ALL THE SAME FABRIC MATERIAL

    that person is UNDER THE CURSE OF THE LAW.
    Deuteronomy 27:26 Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.
     
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    Hobie, you don’t know what the sabbath is. Are you interested in an actual conversation or are you only here to be beligerant?
     
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    James 2:10, "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." The 7th day Sabbath (Exodus 20:8-11) is just one of the 613 laws to keep.

    Galatians 2:21, ". . . I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. . . ."
     
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    Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. - Galatians 2:16

    I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. - 1 Corinthians 2:2

    But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. - 2 Corinthians 11:3

    SDA's Ellen White was originally converted at a Methodist camp meeting where, at the age of 12, a breakthrough occurred in which she had a conversion experience and felt at peace. Too bad she did not continue in her Methodist roots!
     
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    Her supposed visions which are sern as equal to scripture make her a false teacher
     
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    Plus, as I pointed out in another thread, they do not keep the Jewish dietary laws either.
     
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    They also believe in imparted righteousness instead of the imputed righteousness of Christ. Major red flag
     
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    Salty brought up an interesting fact: the ordinance to sacrifice lambs was never abolished. It remains "in the boox" although Jesus fulfilled it once and for all by becoming God's "lamb", sacrificing His own earthly life to fulfill all sacrificial ordinances.

    Humanly speaking, there's a law "in the boox" prohibiting power boat racing down the main street of a town & used to cop in. In former days, that street used to flood, so that law was made. Although that street no longer floods, the law remains.

    While the sabbath has not been abolished, there's NO command of GOD'S for non-Israelis to observe it. Now, while the Seven-Day-Adlibbers' policy is shaped by the charlatan Ellen G. White's hooey, their keeping of the Sabbath is not wrong. However, calling us Sunday-worshippers sinners for not observing Saturday as the worship day is quite-wrong ! And, Saturday worship aside, the SDA is chock-fulla many actual false & sinful doctrines !

    Let's let Jesus' apostle Paul speak about whether Sunday worship is sinful or not :
    Col.2:16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.

    Romans 14:1Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. 2 For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. 3 Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him. 4 Who are you to judge another’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand.

    5 One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks.


    I was wrong to criticize & laugh at people who observe such rules (Unless they were man-made ones), but those who do observe such rules are just-as-wrong for criticizing those who don't follow their stuff.
     
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    The false teachings of Ellen White have blinded him on this issue!
     
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    Yes, as the Sda puts her on same par as the Apostles of Christ, as they want all of us to accept her as being modern day prophetess of the Lord!
     
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    One can still honor Sat as day of the Lord, but they must also allow us to observe Sun as that, as God has not commanded the Jewish Sabbath must be kept by us now!
     
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    You have overlooked the fact that gentile Christians in the First century could not have worshipped in a Jewish Synagogue with Jewish Christians (since Gentiles were not permitted).

    You made no mention of Jewish Christians and Gentile Christians meeting together on the First day of the week as a historic fact alluded to in scripture and recorded in other sources.

    You made no mention of the Jewish persecution of Jewish Christians including the ejecting of them from Sabbath worship in the Synagogue.

    You have ignored the logical possibility that FIRST CENTURY JEWISH CHRISTIANS that had just been ejected from Sabbath worship at Synagogue might simply join with GENTILE CHRISTIANS at the already extant SUNDAY Worship (on the Lord’s Day) as their primary day of worship.

    You have also deliberately avoided the scriptures which claim that CHRISTIANS have the right to worship God on any day of the week, every day of the week or no day of the week because Jesus is “Lord of the Sabbath” and we are to let “no man judge us regarding Sabbaths”.

    Your arguments have deliberately started from a false position concerning the origin so you can build a case for a false conclusion about WHY most Churches meet on Sunday. Sorry, but there is no papal conspiracy ... except to get all churches to meet on the same day. The Sunday Worship had already been established long before that by less ‘sinister’ and more practical reasons.
     
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    It's called "White-itis".
     
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    The early Church saw the connection between creation and the completion of the New Creation on the day of Christ's resurrection by calling Sunday the "eighth day." The eighth day signified the start of a new time in history via the resurrection of Christ.

    More later...
     
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    Now we know the validity of ":not permitting women to teach", as look what resulted in the Sda!
     
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    well. it is only ONE case Y.
     
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