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Featured Any Here Hold that we are not born with a sin nature?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Yeshua1, Mar 28, 2020.

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  1. Revmitchell

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    When it comes to infants I think we need to remain silent where God has also done so.
     
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    I only hope this isn't something he actually teaches or preaches in his church.
     
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    But you are not silent as you have stated:
    I hold to human depravity not total depravity. We have a sin nature but not guilty of Adams sin. We are only guilty of our own sin.

    When you state we are not guilty of Adam's sin, that implies we are born sinless. How could we be born in sin if we are not guilty of Adam's sin?
    I don't believe it is helpful to make an assertion and then say "we need to remain silent." You weren't silent. You made a statement. I would appreciate you showing how you make your assertion from scripture.
     
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    I don't really care what you appreciate. I did not engage you nor do I care what you think I implied. Since you engaged me I would appreciate a different attitude when engaging me.
     
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    Are we born with that sin nature, or basically good until choose to commit sin?
     
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    The Virgin Birth was how he bypassed the sinful humanity nature!
     
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    Adam and Eve did not even gain that knowledge until after the Fall!
     
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    The Fall of Adam caused the judgement of God against Him, as in becoming physically and spiritually dead, to be towards all in Adam!
     
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    In His humanity only!
     
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    Are we kind of spiritually sorta alive then?
     
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    Its being found in Adam and sharing his same judgement as in the Fall!
     
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    Paul made it really clear when he stated all in Adam suffer spiritual death, and all in Christ spiritual life!
     
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    Are babies born innocent and so go to heaven if die, or born as sinners, but grace of God covers their sins?
     
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    We are all then born saved, and then when we choose to really sin lose it?
     
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    So are you too denying the role of the inherited knowledge of good and evil plays in mankinds sin nature? Genesis 2'17.
     
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    We are born in likeness and image of Adam, that is why have sin nature!
     
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    What specifically does scripture say directly about babies?

    If you are going to argue for universal condemnation (guilty of Adams sin,) then do you also hold to universal justification? If not how can you line that inconsistency up with scripture?
     
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    I hold that God has provided in the death of Jesus provisionsto account for sins of babies and infants.
     
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    You made your statement public for all. If you only want one person to talk with you, go have a PM with that person.
    You obviously care, you responded.
    Second, my attitude is a very simple question, which you now are refusing to answer.
    I would appreciate a different attitude when you engage me. Thank you.
     
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    I don't think Rev will answer. He recognizes the position he is in and thus he will not answer.
    I'm fine if he doesn't answer. His silence speaks for itself.
     
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