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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Jem Simmo, May 10, 2020.

  1. timtofly

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    Now it is preschool, the year before kindergarten.

    That is catch up to all those babies, whose mom's play recordings to the baby in the womb.
     
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    There are two issues. Number 1 is, the written word of God is true. The ages 1000s of years - billions of years are matters of interpretation. The bottom line is what is undersstood to be the truth.
     
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    Oh, you know the history of Hinduism and the Greeks and the Enlightenment and the science of the Flood. Now we have new DNA evidence about the dispersion of peoples from the Tower of Babel:

     
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    Matt 25 seems clear concerning post trib rapture.

    Revelation and other apocalyptic writings are symbolic and vague. The 1000 years is not literal but symbolic. I do not, personally expect anything on this earth after the rapture. I expect eternity in heaven or hell for all who exist.

    There is no separate future for Jews, outside the church. The “all Israel will be saved” from Romans 10-11, refers to all who are the Israel of God, made up of Jew and Gentile and saved by Christ and made into the one new man per Eph 2.

    peace to you
     
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    Sorry I misunderstood you. Forgive me for taking offense when none was given.

    I’m not convinced God “restored Israel” to the Jews in 1948. Israel, according to scripture, is a people, not a place as it is considered now. The “Israel of God” is a people made up of both Jew and Gentile.

    Eph 2 says Jesus abolished the Law.

    I think that means Jesus abolished the Law when He fulfilled the Law dying on the cross and being raised to life.

    What do you think Eph 2 means when it says Jesus abolished the Law?

    peace to you
     
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    I'd like to know this too.
     
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    It’s a term some have coined that means not Calvinist and not Arminian. Leighton Flowers uses it a lot I believe. Or maybe it’s best understood—all the correct points that Calvinism asserts and all the correct points Arminian assert
     
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    Is this term of provisionist considered synonymous with traditionalist? :Thumbsdown:Whistling
     
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    LOL probably
     
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    Yes, at the time I was venting. Yes, I could have said that. If I have stirred you up wrongly I apologise. Thank you for your comment.
     
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    Metaphor has not always been my thing. I think I understand what you are saying. I'm not sure though. Are you saying that I have my eyes closed to other theology?
     
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    I have always had an understanding that Baptists "Generally" hold these theological points. Unless things have changed dramatically, then I'm surprised.
     
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    I am not a Southern Baptist so have no view. But from Podcast I've listened to from Soteriology 101 and Worldview Weekend. I don't hear enthusiasm.
     
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    Are you calling me honest? I am trying to be honest, I do let my feelings get in the way sometimes. Mainly frustration.
     
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    Yes I see your point. Yet after the rapture the Nation of Israel is still here and Antichrist is suppose to sell them a false bill of goods.

    From my point Paul does does seperate the two prayer in Romans 10:1 for the nation of Israel is distinct from the church, or in 1 Cor 10:32 when he makes a distinction would have no point in this passage. Paul again sites the as seperate in Romans 9:3-4 When he refers to Israel as Kinsman in the flesh when he ascribes their everlasting covenants and their prophecy.
     
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    Confused, is this Amillennialism???
     
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    I totally understand what you're saying. I don't claim to know everything, I know that the Lord has so much for me to learn. I guess what I have said through what I stand on currently has taken me a good 15 years to work through and allowed the Holy Spirit to work in my heart. These things I am confident on, there is more that the bible has to teach me so I definitely don't have everything sorted. But these theological points are definitely what I believe the scripture teaches.

    I appreciate the gentleness in which you asked thank you.
     
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    Thanks, yes I agree with all you are saying. I like to treat the scripture as truthful. If it isn't what is the point of believing it...you know what I mean.


    Provisionist is just another term for Southern Baptist Traditionalism. I find it actually works quite well with a dispensational theology. Thank you for your gentleness. I wasn't very loving or gentle in the original post.
     
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    Yes, I'm afraid it does :)
     
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    Such are labels are very confusing - they are far more meaningful to the one sticking the label than to the one labelled.

    I understand the label "traditionalist" aka "provisionist" should be rejected according to our Lord -
    He answered and said to them, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? Mat. 15:3
    and Paul -
    Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. Col. 2:8
    and Peter -
    knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers, 1 Peter 1:18

    We must use the Word of God to examine our religious traditions, and only hold what is taught in the Word by Jesus & his Apostles. Even the teaching of the Law & Prophets needs to be understood in the light of Christ & his New Covenant -
    Luke 24:21 But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel....

    25 Then He said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! 26 Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?” 27 And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.
    There is valid tradition that MUST be centred on the LORD Jesus Christ -
    Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle. 2 Thes. 2:15

    But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us. 2 Thes. 3:6

    Remember the the RCs hold their traditions as a correct interpretation of the Scriptures, and include the Apocryphal writings as Scriptures.
     
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