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True story: Pastor B: Why are you putting these people under bondage? A : Why do you

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Mel30, May 12, 2006.

  1. Mel30

    Mel30 New Member

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    True story: Pastor B: Why are you putting these people under bondage? A : Why do you say that? B: You are telling them, they must keep the commandments! A: What do you
    want me to tell them,To break the commandments? B: You are putting work on them by telling them to keep the Sabbath day,A: I am telling them to rest, you are telling them to work,
    to disobey Jesus commands' Jesus says 'John 14:15,21.8:58,If you love me , keep my commandments.Do you think Jesus want us to keep the 10 commandments? B: No! A: So , Is it Ok to
    kill or steal? because I don't usually hear Pastors say, it is ok to lie, to steal? B: (Then he said), Yes, (Then he knew the Sabbath was a part of the ten commandments, then he said,)
    No, we are suppose to keep only 9 of the commandments. A: Are telling me that the only commandment, God says to Remember in Exo:20:8-11 is the Only commandment, the world
    should forget? Then Pastor B. became upset and walked away.True story#2 Pastor D: No body can keep the commandments? C:Which one are you breaking,are you stealing,killing,
    committing adultery?D: Off course not! Why would God who is all knowing give us laws , He knows we can't keep? This is what many Pastors do to make God looks unjust.
    6. Another Pastor said, we worship on Sunday, because that's the day Jesus rose . But where's the command to keep Sunday? He said, we don't have a command, but we have a popular tradition.The bible says ,
    we shouldn't follow traditions, but we should obey what JESUS says. Some pastors will tell you, we are suppose to keep the commandments in the new testament . Where do you find in the new testament the
    commandment that says' you shall not take name of the Lord your God in vain.It's not in the new testament.So is it ok to break the other commands? None of the Pastors believe it's Ok, to break the other 9
    commandments. In James 2:8-12 ,If you really fulfil the royal law according to the Scripture, "You shall love another as yourself,by keeping the last 6 commandments
    and by loving God, through keeping the first 4 commandments,you do well; but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as
    transgressors.For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. For He who said, "Do not commit adultery,also said, "Do
    not murder.Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.So speak and so do as those who will be judged
    by the law of liberty. If a person is brought before a judge because he /she is guilty of murder and he/she says to the judge, ' I know, I kill somebody ,but you should let me go, because I don't lie,
    I don't steal, because I keep all the other commandments. Do you think the judge will accept that argument? No.Were the people of old and new testament times, save by killing lambs? No, The bible
    says: Everyone met at the cross for salvation.The bible says , faith without works is dead. in Ps.138:2,For You have magnified Your word above all Your name, meaning Jesus paid the wages of sin
    which is death for us, because He couldn't change His law of love. Jesus say in Ps. 89:34, 34,My covenant I will not break, Nor alter the word that has gone out of My lips. Mali.3:6"For I am the
    LORD, I do not change;Eccl.3:1, I know that whatever God does, It shall be forever. Nothing can be added to it, And nothing taken from it. God does it, that men should fear before Him. If you
    want to borrow some money from the bank,they will ask you to write your name on a piece of paper. why? To do a credit check to see, if you kept your word and IF you didn't keep your word ,
    then your name is useless . In the same way God puts His WORD ABOVE HIS NAME,SO THAT JESUS NAME IS ABOVE EVERY OTHER NAME.WAS IT THE NAIL THAT KILLED JESUS?NO,
    IT WAS OUR SINS that CAUSED JESUS TO DIE.


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    YOU ARE IN THE PICTURE!
    PROPHECY IS FULFILLING!

    A GROUP OF PEOPLE ALONG WITH THE Roman CHURCH, IN AMERICA ARE PUSHING FOR A NATIONAL SUNDAY LAW ,THAT WILL STOP EVERYONE FROM USING CASH , THAT WILL DIVIDE THE WHOLE WORLD UNDER TWO GROUPS.

    An effort is underway to make May 7 Ten Commandments Day. This is proof that prophecy is fulfilling!
    Every first sunday in the month, will be the ten commandments day according to them.


    We will not be able TO USE MONEY ANY MORE according to REVELATON 13

    THIS WILL SEPARATE THE WORLD INTO TWO GROUPS.
    THOSE WHO WORSHIP GOD BY TAKING THEIR STAND ON ALL TEN COMMANDMENTS by keeping all ten, not nine of them but all ten.

    REVELATION 12:17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

    Revelation 14:12, 12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

    The second group WILL BE UNITED UNDER COUNTERFIET WORSHIP.

    Please note: THERE IS NO COMMANDMENT IN THE BIBLE TO KEEP SUNDAY.
    Jesus never forced any one to obey Him.
    PROPHECY SAY, EVERYONE WILL BE FORCED TO KEEP COUNTERFIET NATIONAL SUNDAY LAW. IT IS COMING!





    REVELATION 13:11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. 12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, who’s deadly wound was healed.

    15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may BUY or SELL except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

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    -( this website talks about baptized paganism) if you do not like hearing the truth , please do not watch it!) because the truth hurts!

    Great peace have they that love your law and nothing shall offend them! Psalm 119:165


    Jesus loves everyone. He loves both the good and bad people the same way! He sends the rain upon the good and the bad , upon all those who love Him and upon all those who do not love Him. What love!
    Jesus loves you and He wants to be your forever friend. John 14:6, Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life.

    It is written, John 3:16, For God so loved the world, that He gave His ONLY SON, TO DIE FOR EVERYONE! What love!
     
  2. SpiritualMadMan

    SpiritualMadMan New Member

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    Are they back on Sky Angel?

    That may be an indicator?

    But, Pastor "B" ain't the only one trying to Bind believers with The Law... We have several apologists from the SDA and some Baptist sects doing the same thing right here on this Forum...

    I don't see a conclusion in your own post...

    At least not identifiable as being your views. [​IMG]

    So, do you support Pastor "B" or not?

    SMM
     
  3. BobRyan

    BobRyan Well-Known Member

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    If I may be allowed to join in the fun here.

    "If you Love Me Keep My Commandments when you happen to feel like it".

    Is that really a "better Jesus" than what we actually find in John 14:15.

    Isn't it strange that man-made-tradition always has the effect of "downsizing the Word of God"?

    "mad - and then walked away" when he heard that Christ said "IF you Love Me KEEP My Commandments" PRE-CROSS - before anything COULD have been "conveniently downsized".

     
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