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    Have you remembered every sin that you have done since Jesus in your life, anything not repented and confessed?
     
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    Ellen White taught to them that we must be confirmed to the law, as must be confirmed to law in every word, thought, and deed. NOT the good news but dead news!
     
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    1 John 2:1-3 King James Version (KJV)
    1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
    2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
    3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

    If we sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the son. If we flat out reject the authority of God, by willfully and repeatedly ignoring the authority of His commandments, we will not be saved. Repentance is part of salvation, there is no salvation without it.
     
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    We have passed from death unto life, and now there is NO condemnation for those of us saved, and we face no judgement, correct?
     
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    If you turn your life over to Christ rather than just lip service, you may go boldly before the throne.
     
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    In Revelation 12:17, we find God's true church emerging from its wilderness experience; and there comes to view a remnant people identified by two characteristics:

    Revelation 12:17 King James Version (KJV)
    17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

    They 'keep the commandments' of God, all ten of them, and possess the 'testimony of Jesus' which see more clearly defined in Revelation 19:10...

    Revelation 19:10 King James Version (KJV)
    10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
     
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    And claim to be saved right now, correct?
     
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    We need to be humble and not to get ahead of God in our presumptions....

    Luke 18:10-14 King James Version (KJV)
    10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
    11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
    12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
    13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
    14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
     
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    So do we go to heaven and continue in sin, of course not.
    Here is a excellent article I came across by Professor Walter J. Veith from Amazing Discoveries:
    " Throughout the ages, God has had a people through whom He chose to disseminate His truth. It was God’s plan that all people - every nation, tribe and tongue should become partakers of His grace. In His divine plan of restoration, He chose fallen human beings to become co-workers together with Him to achieve this end. God has always had faithful followers who would stand for truth and justice even in the face of great opposition. Before the flood, Enoch walked with God, and faithful Noah became the father of the post-flood human race, when he and his family were the only remnant to be saved from the destruction of the then-time apostate world.

    After the flood, the patriarch Abraham was given the promise that through his seed all peoples would be blessed.(Genesis 12:2) The Messianic promise was to be realized through Isaac and Jacob whose name was changed to Israel after he wrestled with God for divine forgiveness and blessing.(Genesis 32:28)“Israel” became the name of the descendants of Jacob - the chosen people in terms of the covenant between God and Abraham their forefather.(Genesis 15:18; Psalm 105:9,10)

    First lets go through the Isreal of God in Old Covenant Israel.There is much confusion today as to who constitutes the Israel of God. Many denominations seek the fulfillment of the promises of God to ancient Israel in modern Israel. They expect the restoration of Israel, and the modern Israel in Palestine is seen to be integral in this process. It must be remembered that “Israel” is not the natural name of Jacob, but was given to him by God in recognition of a spiritual victory when he prevailed with God and secured pardon for his past sins. Jacob wrestled with the Angel and refused to let Him go unless he obtained the surety of the heavenly blessing which would grant him the pardon of his sins. Jacob prevailed and received the blessing, his was heart was renewed and he could face his brother Esau knowing that God was with him. The name change signified a change in character from the “supplanter or deceiver” to “God contends”. An understanding of the relationship between physical Israel and the covenant people of God is vital if we are to discern who God’s light-bearers are in this modern age.

    Following the Exodus from Egypt, God formally entered into a covenant with the nation of Israel.(Exodus 19:1-8) Israel was to be a kingdom of priests and a holy nation (Exodus 19:6) and they were to spread light to all people on the face of the earth.(Isaiah 60:1-3) The covenant promises made to ancient Israel were conditional to obedience.
    Now therefore, if ye will obey My voice indeed and keep My covenant, then ye shall be a special treasure unto Me above all people; for all the earth is Mine. Exodus 19:5

    The promises were subject to “if”. The physical throne of Israel was always conditional to obedience, and both David and Solomon were informed on this issue.
    ...that the Lord may continue His word which He spake concerning me, saying,‘If thy children take heed to their way, to walk before Me in truth with all their heart and with all their soul,’ He said,‘there shall not fail thee a man on the throne of Israel.’ 1 Kings 2:4

    This promise was repeated in 1 Kings 9:5-7:
    ...then I will establish the throne of thy kingdom upon Israel forever, as I promised to David thy father, saying ‘There shall not fail thee a man on the throne of Israel.’ But if ye shall at all turn from following Me, ye and your children, and will not keep My commandments and My statues which I have set before you, but go and serve other gods and worship them, then I will cut off Israel out of the land which I have given them; and this house which I have hallowed for My name I will cast out of My sight. Israel shall be a proverb and a byword among all peoples. 1 Kings 9:5-7

    Deuteronomy 28:1-14 contains a list of the most wonderful blessings ever pronounced to any nation or people. Again the promises were conditional to obedience.
    And all these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God. Deuteronomy 28:2

    Israel did, however, not heed this admonition and became more corrupt than the nations around them.(2 Kings 17:6-23) Only the tribes of Judah and Benjamin were spared for a while, and the other tribes were carried away captive by the king of Assyria and disappear from history, though some believe that they constitute the nations of Britain and their descendants including the USA. Without loyalty to God, the promises could not be fulfilled, and a century and a half later, even Judah was plucked up from the Promised Land and scattered in the Neo-Babylonian Empire.

    Nevertheless, some had remained faithful to God even in the face of this calamity as is shown by the stories of Daniel and his friends who were willing to rather face death than to disobey God. Through the prophet Jeremiah, God had granted a specific time for repentance and reflection, and He had promised that they would return to their land after 70 years of exile (Jeremiah 31:10-14; Isaiah 43:1-13). They were to rebuild the temple, the time prophecies of Daniel predicted the advent of the Messiah; and they had the opportunity to be witnesses to the nations (Micah 4:1-4; 5:2-6; Zechariah 8:20-23). Again all these promises were conditional to obedience (Zechariah 6:15). Sadly, the nation rejected the Messiah, and forfeited its covenant role and the covenant promises. By Rejecting Jesus, the house of Israel became desolate.

    O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. Matthew 23:37–39

    Now lets go through the Isreal of God in New Covenant Israel. When the Jewish nation rejected the Messiah, the gospel was to go to the Gentiles and all who would believe in the name of Jesus would become the spiritual descendants of Abraham.(Galatians 3:16; Romans 4:16; Romans 9:3,8)
    And if ye be Christ’s, then ye are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. Galatians 3:29
    The apostle Paul speaks of Christians as the “Israel of God”(Galatians 6:16) and the “circumcision”(Phil. 3:3) The kingdom of God and the covenant promises associated with it were to be taken from the Jews and passed on to spiritual Israel - those who would permit Christ to transform them, to change their character as was the case with Jacob of old.
    Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you and given to a nation bearing forth the fruits of it. And whoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken; but on whomever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. Matthew 21:43,44

    Jesus did not choose 12 disciples coincidentally. Just as the twelve patriarchs were the founders of ancient Israel, so these twelve men are the foundation stones of new Israel to which the Lord promised the kingdom (Matt 19:28; Luke 22:30). The subsequent choice of seventy others is modeled after the choice of seventy elders by Moses in ancient Israel (Num 11:16). The real Israel of God is a remnant chosen by grace (Rom 11:5). There is a marvelous continuity between the old and the new Israel of God. In Romans 11:17-24, Paul speaks of the olive tree which represents Israel. The branches (Jews) were broken off because of unbelief and the wild olive shoots (Gentiles) were grafted in to share in the nourishment of the tree. The natural branches could be grafted back into the tree if they accepted the conditions. God is no respecter of nations or individuals. All who turn to Him will be accepted (Acts 10:34,35).
    For there is no difference between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all that call upon Him. Romans 10:12 NIV.
    For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:26

    The new Israel is the inheritor of God’s covenant promises. Those who have accepted Christ have become the chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God.(Compare 1 Peter 2:9,10 with Exodus 19:5,6) They were chosen to reveal God’s marvelous light to the world,(1 Peter 2:9; Matthew 28:19,20; Ephesians 3:10) a remnant, called out to shine the light of truth and prophecy of the end times, and are those that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

    The human race is in desperate need of redemption, yet many reject his commandments and the faith of Jesus. God yearns to forgive and cleanse and never gives up trying.(John 3:16; 1 Timothy 2:4) Henceforth it is the role of the remnant or Spiritual Israel to carry Gods truth to the world...."

    http://pdf.amazingdiscoveries.org/BibleStudies/27True Church.pdf
     
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    We are right now justified to God, as he sees us as pure as Jesus Himself, as he imputes the very righteousness of Jesus towards us! Sp that is why no sin will enter heaven!
     
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