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Featured How the 5 points of Calvinism don’t line up.

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by 1689Dave, Aug 25, 2020.

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  1. 1689Dave

    1689Dave Well-Known Member

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    Possibly I misdirected it. Sorry.
     
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    And this removes the gospel as the means of salvation and places it in the blood of Christ.
     
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    Of course, it does. But what are the means?
     
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    Grace alone thru faith alone!
     
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    No atonement No salvation follows.
     
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    Were lost sinners atoned for before the resurrection event?
     
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    i don't understand why you want to seperate the atonement from grace and faith?
     
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    Think he wants us to be eternally already saved!
     
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    On the contrary, the babies' hearing and understanding are Opened, by God, TO HEAR THE GOSPEL MESSAGE and Comprehend.

    The Gospel is 'the means' that God Just Happens to Use.
     
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    with an Eternally Suffering lamb, too?
     
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    Thats unfortunate, for we are saved in time.
     
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