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Why Liberty University Matters

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by rockytopva, Sep 1, 2020.

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  1. rockytopva

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    Here in Southwest Virginia....

    1. My Pentecostal Holiness pastor has a Masters Degree from Liberty
    2. Many Baptist preachers hold degrees from Liberty
    3. Many of all denominations and independents hold degrees from Liberty
    4. I helped support a niece through Liberty, who latter went on to work at Virginia Tech
    5. Liberty University represents the Moral Majority, a prominent American political organization associated with the Christian right and Republican Party.
    6. Liberty University represents Christianity on planet earth.

    The name Liberty University is now associated with scandal, which takes from the luster of anyone associated with them or who holds a degree from there. I understand Liberty is now investigated their former leader.....

    Liberty University announces probe of Jerry Falwell Jr.'s tenure amid scandal

    All of which is serious stuff that the former president needs held accountable for. When I was associated with the GARBC (If I remember right) me and some buddies at youth camp took some boats out when we were supposed to be in chapel. A day did not go by until I was before the leadership giving an account of what happened and I had to put together an explanation good enough for them to believe I would not do that a second time.

    Christ represents us in the heavens!
    We represent Christ on the earth!

    All of which is serious stuff!
     
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    For a time the National Guard had an enlistment program for people who did not graduate high school. The enlistee would be stationed at a facility in Illinois where they would attend a high school program (which could last a year). The program had teachers to help the students but the programs were individualized (it was almost like home school with local teachers helping the students). The program was developed with Liberty University.

    A lot of military service members used the college because it was so military friendly. A service member would pay no tuition (they'd use TA and Liberty kept the cost at that level), no fees, and received a voucher to pay for books.
     
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    Based upon reading this, I would conclude that none of this matters in the Kingdom of God.
     
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    I think when it comes to seminary what matters much more than the school is the student. When it comes to kingdom work what matters is God and the servant's faithfulness.

    It is sad, but the ministry has become in so many ways just another "profession".
     
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    14 Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of Jehovah to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die. 2 Sam 12
     
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    "For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good or whether it be evil."
    Ecclesiastes 12:14
     
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    [Eze 18:20 KJV] 20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
     
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    Wheat and tares, wheat and tares.
     
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    It was dear to the heart of Jerry Falwell Sr that all have an opportunity to receive a college degree.. This scandal would not have set well with him!
     
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    True, but there are many other Christian Universities that one can go to for a similar or less cost. I'm not sure that getting a degree from Liberty University is all that influential over another university.
     
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    I am talking Southwest Virginia. Liberty University received a lot of support from our area. Liberty University was thought of as a good idea.
     
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    When Jerry Sr was in charge - the motto was "Champions for Christ" I trust that shall return in word and deed!

    Apparently the board took action rather quickly. Officially Jr resigned - but my thinking is the board told him
    if he did not resign - he would be fired. Liberty has a l lot of work to do to overcome this poor choice of actions
    by those in charge. ---

    Why did Jesus say to Peter, “Get behind me Satan ...
    www.gotquestions.org/get-behind-me-Satan.html
    Answer: The command “Get behind me, Satan,” spoken to Peter by Jesus, is recorded in Matthew 16:23 and Mark 8:33. “Get behind me, Satan” seems harsh and out of character for Jesus, especially when addressing Peter, one of His most devout disciples.

    Okay --maybe JR wasnt the most devout....... but you see the point I am trying to make.
     
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    Okay. But aren't there other Christian Universities?
    I suspect that God will honor the board of Regents for purging unrepentant sin and seeking holiness. The events that have occurred should be viewed as a Godly move toward holiness.
     
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    The best thing Liberty did was to remove Jr and seek holiness over financial growth.
    Satan was seeking to sift, Jr...and he did.
     
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    Hoping this post is not overly gossipy, my feelings are much of the evil was instigated via the wife, who reportedly took the troublesome pictures. It is almost like reading Old Testament stories of Ahab and Jezebel. And... Reading news articles I do not believe Jerry Jr sees his activities as sinful. Then.... Yes! Dear friends! The board of Regents is very much in the right for seeking to purge unrepentant sin, seeking holiness and strengthening themselves academically.

    Jerry Jr does not see his actions as sinful! "I called Nasser and asked him exactly what sin I committed," Falwell said...

    Liberty University campus pastor apologizes for Falwell's 'sinful' behavior
     
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    I considered myself a basic supporter of Liberty University and the TRBC as well...

    1. If I lived closer by I would attend Liberty University
    2. If I lived closer by I would attend The Thomas Road Baptist Church
    3. Jonathan Falwell has done a great job representing Christ and in the pastorate.

    I believe had Jerry Falwell Jr married better and made more of a commitment as a Christian the story would have turned out much better. I attended the Virginia Christmas Spectacular a few years ago and it was really done well. I am in basic support of the the ministries... But grieve and sorrow over the terrible decisions made by Jerry Jr and wife.



    I am a member of the Pentecostal Holiness church but visit all denominations. In this day and time I believe the church influenced by the Laodicean age, which I believe has had an impact on all. I therefore do not promote any certain denomination. The Thomas Road Baptist church is independent. It is too bad, I believe, that the spirit of the Laodicean age took effect on Jerry Jr and wife.
     
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    Yes, TRBC is an independent Baptist church - but they are also affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention and the Southern Baptists of Virginia.
     
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    I do not worry about an organization's stance on Israel or on the denominational standing. What matters to me....

    1. Salvation- That one has believed in his heart on the Lord Jesus Christ
    2. Sanctification- A clean and holy life
    3. Infilling of the Holy Ghost- Reasonable fruits (Love, joy, peace, gentleness, etc)

    For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. - Galatians 5:14

    In which I have no problem with Jonathan Falwell or the current LU president Jerry Prevo.
     
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