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False Spirits vs False Doctrines

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by rockytopva, Oct 11, 2020.

  1. rockytopva

    rockytopva Well-Known Member
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    It is just as important to be right in the heart as well as the head....

    Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. - James 3:13-15

    And to contrast the Spirit in the heart and the Word in the mind...

    Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps. - Numbers 10
    Metaphors...

    First Trumpet - The Spirit
    Second Trumpet - The Word
    Whole Piece - They never take two opposing views
    The Assembly - Church service
    Journeying - Direction and order of service

    First Trumpet - As in....
    *** The song service
    *** Worship
    *** Praise
    *** The Holy Spirit
    *** Prayer Meetings
    *** Spiritual fruit - The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. - Galatians 5:22-23
    ***Spiritual E/c2 - Spiritual Energy (warmth, love, motivation) / Spiritual Light (faith, hope, charity, joy)

    Second Trumpet
    - As in....
    *** The Ministry of the Word
    *** The Preacher or Evangelist
    *** The Circuit Rider or Exhorter
    *** Christ Jesus
    *** Bible studies

    I have known of many who think they have arrived doctrinally, but there is very little in the heart to make them effective. At one point the Lord declares...

    Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: - Isaiah 29:13

    I have a preacher who thinks he has arrived with his Masters degree from Liberty University. But... There is little that draws people to church and the attendance is but a few. In talking it over with him he blames the problems over a lack of dedication.

    I have put together a video that RW Schambach preached contrasting the ministry of the Word and the Worship....

     
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  2. Alex2165

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    Jesus many times warned about false teachers, and particularly His disciples to avoid them.

    Matthew 15.12-14
    12.Then the disciples approached and said to Him, “Do you know that the Pharisees took offense, when they heard what You said?”

    13.He answered, “Every plant that My Heavenly Father has not planted will be uprooted.

    14.Let them alone, they are blind guides of the blind. And if one blind person guides another, both will fall into a pit.”

    The hypocrites always claim that this is the Lord Who put in their hearts to be a preacher - pastor. And some of them actually preaching very good, all according to the Bible, but the difference is that themselves they do not do what they preach.

    And I also heard from some about their religious education and how much money they spent in the college or seminary to be a pastor. In comparison to Christ disciples, the major four of His 12 students with whom He spent most of His time, they most likely had been illiterate.

    This brings to a certain point and thought that it is not a profession to be a teacher of the Bible but it is a calling from GOD, and only few deserve such a call.

    From my point of view Christianity today is dead, completely consumed and killed by monetary gain, greed, and corruption. It is no longer serve the purpose intended for the church by GOD, to teach people the truth, to care for one another, and to brings the souls to Christ.

    And, do we really need the church? In the past people flock to the church to listen the passages of the Bible, because in general people were uneducated and illiterate and could read Bible themselves, so the preaches read the Bible for them and explained it.

    Today we are all can read the Bible, even small children can do that, why we need the church after all?

    The Bible alone gives to us complete, true, and precise perception and understanding of the meaning and essence of the Word of GOD. I study Bible every day and I clearly see how far sometimes the preaching in the church goes from the Bible Scriptures, and how wrong and twisted many passages of the Bible have been explained, interpreted, and indoctrinated.

    When I look at the pastors and hear them what they preach, I see one crook after another. It is not only hurt and insult intelligence of the people it is also hurt deeply the spirit inside, to see how Holy Scriptures of the Bible have been rammed, bend, abused, and altered, to the selfish, false, and corrupt doctrines of the church.


    2Corinthians 11.13-15
    13.Such boasters are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.

    14.And no wonder! Even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.

    15.So it is not strange if his ministers also disguise themselves as ministers of righteousness. Their end will match their deeds.


    Colossians 2.8.
    8.See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deceit according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the universe, and not according to Christ.


    1Timothy 1.5-6
    5.But the aim of such instruction is Love that comes from a pure heart, a good Conscience, and sincere Faith.

    6.Some people have deviated from these and turned to meaningless talk,

    7.desiring to be teachers of the Law without understanding either what they are saying or the things about which they make assertions.


    2Peter 2.1-3.12.18-19
    1.But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will false teachers among you who will secretly bring in destructive opinions. They will even deny the Master Who bought them, bringing swift destruction on themselves.

    2.Even so, many will follow licentious ways, and because of these teachers the way of truth will be maligned.

    3.And in their *greed they will exploit you with deceptive words. Their condemnation pronounced against them long ago has not been idle and their destruction is not asleep.

    *(teaching for monetary gain: (Micah 3.11) (Acts 20.33-35) (John 10.1-12-13-16) (Titus 1.10-11-16) (1Peter 5.2-4).

    12.These people however are like irrational animals, mere creatures of instinct, born to be caught and killed. They slander what they do not understand, and when those creatures are destroyed, they also will be destroyed,

    18.They speak bombastic nonsense and with licentious of the flesh they entice who have just escaped from those who live in error.

    19.They promise them freedom, but they themselves are slaves of corruption, people are slaves to whatever masters them.


    2Timothy 4.3-4
    3.The time is coming when people will not put up with sound doctrine, but having itching ears their will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own desires,

    4.and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander away to myths.
     
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