Featured Restrictions on tongues

do as you please!

 

Rhyming noises are not languages.
I post in tongues
..kokomo mo sheiki. Rondo co bo ba .
It is a secret language that Satan cannot understand.Problem is no one else understands it.
Now what is rubbish is your lack of understanding of the issue of sign gifts ,Apostolic Uniqueness , and all related areas.

 

Maybe the real answer is that they are following deluding spirits, and teaching doctrines of demons?

 

My family has experienced God healing people.
It was answer to prayer, not sign gifts.

 

Writer of Hebrews said the the signs and wonders were done by the Apostles of the Lord Jesus, past tense!

 

Not even God can understand non existent tongue!

 

It is not about what either you or I please. You made your view on the textual issue clear.
The Vulgate has the "brothers" reading, but checking this the old Latin has the "disciples" reading.

 

1 Corinthians 13:8-10, ". . . but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. . . ."

In verse 8 it can be understood that two speaking gifts, gifts of prophecies and word of knowlege will be done away.

In verse 9 it can be understood that two speaking gifts are only in part. Which can be understood to be prophecies and word of knowledge.

In verse 10, it speaks of a perfect to come. And when that perfect is come a what is in part will be done away.
In James 1:17 gifts are said to be good and perfect.

So it being understood that the written word of God is perfect, it has been interpreted that with close of the written word of God with the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ, Revlation 1:1, the perfect word of knowldge and perfect gifts of prophecies was so given.

Revelation 22:18 prohibits added revelation to the hearing of it. And so can be understood to be the close of all written revelation. All revelation being about our Lord Jesus Christ, Revelation 19:10, Luke 24:44. And so can be interpreted to be for the churches the perfect spoken of in 1 Corinthians 13:8-10.

Now the value of the gifts of tongues are their interpretation per 1 Corinthains 14:6. The interpretation being with the doing away with the spoken gifts of prophecies and the spoke word of knowledge that tongues would cease per 1 Corinthains 13:8-10.

 

so where exactly does it say that the Gift of Tongues will be ceased by God?

 

You evidently did not read carefully 1 Corinthians 13:8-10.
". . . whether there be tongues, they shall cease; . . ." And as to when is as I stated is an interpretation of 1 Corinthians 13:8-10 the perfect being in place of what is in part. Noting the gifts are good and perfect per James 1:17. Not being said to be in part as in 1 Corinthians 13:9-10.

 

yeah, I read very carefully! The answer lies in verse 10, "But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away", which is no doubt the Second Coming of Jesus!

 

That is a popular interpretation. One problem being Jesus Christ Himself is not a "that." And what might truely be interpreted as a that which is perfect does not occur until after the Judgement, being the new heaven and Earth.

That very Greek word translated "perfect" in 1 Corinthians 13:10 is the very word James uses in James 1:17 regarding gifts as well as James 1:25 the word of God. That very term is no where used of Christ or His second appearing. The closest to that term to refer to Christ being perfect is used in Hebrews 7:28, ". . . the Son, who is consecrated for evermore." τετελειωμενον. 1 Corinthians 13:10, James 1:17, τελειον.

 

why, have you not read 1 John 1:1? "Ὃ ἦν ἀπ' ἀρχῆς, ὃ ἀκηκόαμεν, ὁ ἑωράκαμεν τοῖς ὀφθαλμοῖς ἡμῶν, ὃ ἐθεασάμεθα καὶ αἱ χεῖρες ἡμῶν ἐψηλάφησαν περὶ τοῦ λόγου τῆς ζωῆς", literally, "That which was from the beginning, that which we have heard, that which we have seen with our eyes, that which we did behold, and our hands did handle, concerning the Word of the Life". Here in the neuter for Jesus Christ!

 

We are not looking at the same Greek, "that which is perfect," το τελειον. Versus "That which" the Greek ο "Who." One is a "thing" and the other is a "person."

 

Where in the text of Acts 2 is 'the 120' mentioned? I see only '12' in Acts 2:

14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven.....

In fact, where in all the scripture is that phrase 'the 120' to be found?

'The 120' is like 'strange fire' to me.

 

Miracles have not ceased, but they don't occur as often. And tongues certainly don't happen as often as Pennypinchers pretend they do.

 

'120' w/the definite article 'the' kinda forces one to take it literally, don't you think?

Actually 'the multitude of about a hundred and twenty' weren't named, but those abiding in the house that the Spirit filled were named:

13 And when they were come in, they went up into the upper chamber, where they were abiding; both Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon the Zealot, and Judas the son of James. Acts 1