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Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Gold Dragon, Jan 19, 2021.

  1. just-want-peace

    just-want-peace Well-Known Member
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    Sorry about your family & acquaintances, but this DOES NOT in any way change the fact that this has been commandeered as a “CRISIS” as per Rhom Emmanuel for the d party!!!!:rolleyes:
     
  2. Baptist Believer

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    I don’t know where you are getting your figures, but I do know you are confusing the mortality rate with the recovery rate.

    A person who truly “recovers” won’t have long-lasting damage to their body — usually the lungs, heart and/or brain. About 1/3 of people who survive COVID have long-term damage.

    Regarding the mortality rate (with treatment) for my mother (age 85), all things being equal, has a mortality rate of 15%.

    My stepfather, who is 93, faces a much higher mortality rate, especially since he believes everything he has heard from Fox News and memes in the internet and refuses to take the medicine he was prescribed. He very likely may lose his life.

    There’s lots of slimy people posting dangerous propaganda, but they refuse to change because of their overwhelming narcissism.
     
  3. Benjamin

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    I'm blaming every COVID death since Biden's inauguration day on Biden. Fair is fair.
     
  4. percho

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    Maybe masks aren't the only thing needs to be worn.


    Year

    Number of Registered Live Births

    Number of Reported Abortions

    Number of Estimated Abortions

    1973

    3,136,965

    615,831[3]

    744,600

    1974

    3,159,958

    763,476

    898,600

    1975

    3,144,198

    854,853

    1,034,200

    1976

    3,167,788

    988,267

    1,179,300

    1977

    3,326,632

    1,079,430

    1,316,700

    1978

    3,333,279

    1,157,776

    1,409,600

    1979

    3,494,398

    1,251,921

    1,497,700

    1980

    3,612,258

    1,297,606

    1,553,900

    1981

    3,629,238

    1,300,760

    1,577,300

    1982

    3,680,537

    1,303,980

    1,573,900

    1983

    3,638,933

    1,268,987

    (1,575,000)

    1984

    3,669,141

    1,333,521

    1,577,200

    1985

    3,760,561

    1,328,570

    1,588,600

    1986

    3,756,547

    1,328,112

    (1,574,000)

    1987

    3,809,394

    1,353,671

    1,559,100

    1988

    3,909,510

    1,371,285

    1,590,800

    1989

    4,040,958

    1,396,658

    (1,567,000)

    1990

    4,158,212

    1,429,247

    (1,609,000)

    1991

    4,110,907

    1,388,937

    1,556,500

    1992

    4,065,014

    1,359,146

    1,528,900

    1993

    4,000,240

    1,330,414

    (1,495,000)

    1994

    3,952,767

    1,267,415

    (1,423,000)

    1995

    3,899,589

    1,210,883

    1,359,400

    1996

    3,891,494

    1,225,937

    1,360,200

    1997

    3,880,894

    1,186,039

    (1,335,000)

    1998

    3,941,553

    884,273

    (1,319,000)

    1999

    3,959,417

    861,789

    1,314,800

    2000

    4,058,814

    857,475

    1,313,000

    2001

    4,025,933

    853,485

    (1,303,000)

    2002

    4,021,726

    854,122

    (1,293,000)

    2003

    4,089,950

    848,163

    (1,287,000)

    2004

    4,112,052

    839,226

    1,216,050

    2005

    4,138,349

    820,151

    1,198,960

    2006

    4,265,555

    846,181

    1,242,000

    2007

    4,316,233

    827,609

    1,202,960

    2008

    4,247,694

    825,564

    1,212,350

    2009

    4,130,665

    784,507

    1,151,600

    2010

    3,999,386

    765,651

    1,102,670

    2011

    3,953,590

    730,322

    1,058,490

    2012

    3,952,841

    699,202

    1,011,000

    2013

    3,932,181

    664,435

    958,700

    2014

    3,988,076

    652,639

    926,190

    2015

    3,978,497

    638,169

    899,500

    2016

    3,945,875

    623,471

    874,100
     
  5. Baptist Believer

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    If Biden ever politicizes wearing masks, dismisses the warnings of medical experts, and diminishes the risk of COVID-19, we should all blame Biden — just like we should have held the former President accountable for his lies, when he told the public not to worry and that COVID-19 was about to go away, yet told Bob Woodward something else in private that was absolutely true and represented the latest understanding of medical experts.

    Trump is not responsible for all of the deaths, but he is responsible for a significant number of them, as well as the nonsense being promoted in this thread that continue to get people killed.
     
  6. Benjamin

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    No "ifs" - Trump was never afforded any reasoning just blamed. Fair is fair.
     
  7. Baptist Believer

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    No, plenty of reasons were given, including what I mentioned in my post. You just don’t like it.

    You are acting like a pouting child. You relished the idea of “drinking liberal tears” when Trump won the election and refused any doses of reality that showed that Trump was likely to lose the election.

    When Trump lost, you couldn’t handle it because of your ego and the way you’ve treated others, so you have doubled down on your nonsense and gladly embraced the idea of a stolen election.

    It’s time to be a grown-up. I’m sure you don’t like Biden, but deal with real complaints instead of just having a tantrum.
     
  8. Benjamin

    Benjamin Well-Known Member
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    Blah, blah, blah...you, you, you...:rolleyes: ...Ah, nope, don't be a hypocrite, all the COVID deaths from now on Biden's fault. Live with it.
     
  9. Van

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    Could you please provide a link to a site that supports this claim. I see some have "long term" symptoms that last months, and others do suffer damage to their heart, or lungs, or brain or other. But I did not see where this long term damage was quantified.
     
  10. Gold Dragon

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    Post COVID/ Long COVID

    There are no definitive numbers yet but this site for infectious disease clinicians cites 8 studies of long term symptoms. >50% of respondents to all these studies reported persisting symptoms at the time of the study (somewhere between 1-6 months after their positive covid test), albeit most of the symptoms were mild. There are young previously healthy patients in all of these studies.
     
  11. Revmitchell

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    Woooh wait! I have given no evidence of confusing anything. The recovery rate places the mortality rate in proper context. Sorry but that is not propaganda its just fact. The only propaganda is that which uses covid to add more government control over peoples lives against their will and rob Americans the freedom this country was established on. Calling that narcissism is just childish backbiting. Grow up
     
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