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Featured JESUITS - "the most cruel, unscrupulous, and powerful of all the champions of popery"

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  1. Eliyahu

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    RCC itself is the biggest cult in the world.
    Jesuit is one of its divisions specialized for attacking Protestants by terrors and by forces etc.
    But when the most of the cruel operations are done against Christians by Islam, they disguise themselves as the angels of peace and light.
    RCC and Islam will get united and form a worldwide religion and the head of the integrated religion will be the Great Pope, the False Prophet in Rev 11:11-18.
    He will be thrown into the lake of fire ( 19:20 and 20:10)
    Those who support RCC will have the same fate.

    Eliyahu
     
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    Probably the biggest bunch of hooyey I have read on the BB since I became a member years ago. I found a close abiding faith in Jesus as Lord and Savior within 'the Catholic Church. I become closer to the heart of God by way of His word and sacraments. You can claim I worship a false Christ all you want, but the fruits of the Spirit are evident in my daily life. So what now???
     
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    Put them in Jail then. Since its so obvious to you they are criminals, call the police.

    Else if you share harboring criminals.

    PS. Threatening us with hell? If heaven is a roomful of hateful folks like you how is that a bad thing?
     
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    Hmmhmm Finally folks snapping out.

     
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    Many are calling the police:

    German Nuns Sold Orphaned Children to Sexual Predators: Report

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    ROME—A jarring report outlining decades of rampant child sex abuse at the hands of greedy nuns and perverted priests in the Archdiocese of Cologne, Germany, paints a troubling picture of systematic abuse in the German church.

    The report is the byproduct of a lawsuit alleging that orphaned boys living in the boarding houses of the Order of the Sisters of the Divine Redeemer were sold or loaned for weeks at a time to predatory priests and businessmen in a sick rape trade. The men involved in the lawsuit say as boys they were denied being adopted out or sent to foster families because selling them for rape lined the sisters’ coffers for their “convent of horrors.” Some of the boys were then groomed to be sex slaves to perverts, the report claims.

    The alleged abuse went on for years, with one of the males claiming the nuns even frequently visited their college dorms after they had left the convent. He said the nuns often drugged him and delivered him to predators’ apartments. The Order of Sisters of the Divine Redeemer did not answer multiple requests for comment about the allegations.

    Pope Acknowledges Priests, Bishops Have Sexually Abused Nuns

    The lawsuit, first reported by Deutsche Welle last year, is being led by 63-year-old victim Karl Haucke who, along with 15 other former orphans, demanded the Archdiocese of Cologne carry out a full investigation, which it concluded in January 2021. But the details of that investigative report were so horrific that Archbishop Reiner Maria Woelki refused to make it public, demanding that any journalists who see it sign confidentiality agreements. Eight German journalists walked out of a press conference in January after being denied access to the church’s investigation unless they agreed not to publish its contents.

    Haucke says he was abused at least once a week between the ages of 11 and 14, often by more than one priest. “We had no words to describe what was being done to us. Nor did we know what it meant. And it did not stop at physical pain. We had a clear sense of humiliation and being used,” he told Deutsche Welle when the report was due to be released. He called the stifling of the report's release in January “scandalous” and said that denying the journalists the right to publish the report was “like being abused all over again.”

    Now, several lawyers with access to the 560-page report have shared segments with news outlets, including The Daily Beast. The report names various German businessmen and complicit clergy who “rented” the young boys from the nuns who ran a convent in Speyer, Germany between the 1960s and 1970s. Among the worst instances of abuse were gang bangs and orgies the young boys were forced to participate in before being returned to the convent where the nuns would then punish them for wrinkling their clothing or being covered in semen.

    The report finds that 175 people, mostly boys between the ages of 8 and 14, were abused over two decades. But it failed to blame the nuns directly, instead saying “systematic” management errors and “leniency” for those who were accused by the children enabled the abuse to continue.

    Haucke, who led the victims' group of those who survived the nuns until he resigned over the censoring of the report, says Woelki told them in October 2020 that the report was not “legally watertight” and contained “inadmissible prejudices” against the Catholic church that were fed by scandals going on elsewhere. “The survivors were used again,” he said, referring to their cooperation in the report only to have it kept private. “People who have already been damaged in their lives by clergymen are being damaged again to protect the institution.”

    The lawsuit also spawned a survey within religious orders that found that 1,412 people who lived in or frequented convents, parishes, and monasteries were abused as children, teenagers, and wards by at least 654 monks, nuns, and other members of the orders. Around 80 percent of the victims surveyed were male and 20 percent female. The survey also found that 80 percent of the abusers are now dead, and 37 had left the priesthood or religious order.

    The Archdiocese of Cologne told The Daily Beast in a statement that the reason the report was not published was that it failed to fully explain the methodology of the research, but Bishop Karl-Heinz Wiesmann, who now leads the archdiocese, said that the abuse report was “so gory” it would be too shocking to make public. Wiesemann told the Catholic News Agency KNA that after reading it he had to take a month's sabbatical to recover. “I too have limited energy for the burdens I have to carry,” he said.

    The main abusers in the report are now dead and many of the victims have settled with the church for financial compensation, which has prohibited them from joining the lawsuit. The archdiocese now plans to publish a new revised, and undoubtedly heavily redacted, edition of the report in March. ..."
     
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    And yet, Adventist Hospitals and Abortion Mills slice and dice babies every day of the year. I'm sure the surgeons enjoy a veggie burger in the hospital/clinic afterwards. This happens EVERY day in your hospitals. Why doesn't the church put and end to the murder Adventists commit? Money I think!
     
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    You see, I provide documented sources:

    "... And now we come to the last desperate conspiracy to overthrow our government, and make the rebellion a success by a resort to the favorite policy of the Jesuits, that of assassination. ..." - Rome's responsibility for the assassination of Abraham Lincoln by Thomas Mealey Harris (U.S. Army Brigadier General), 1817-1906, page 34 - Rome's responsibility for the assassination of Abraham Lincoln : Harris, Thomas Mealey, 1817-1906 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

    Walter you only provided 'you', which is no reliable source, and a Pro-Catholic Andrew (again, *sigh*, *rolls eyes* - see [1] https://archive.org/download/abortion-and-roman-catholicism-and-sda/Abortion and Roman Catholicism and SDA.pdf & [2] https://archive.org/download/sda-vance-ferrell-abortion-and-you/SDA - Vance Ferrell - Abortion And You.pdf ). One day, I pray you learn the difference between documented facts, as I provide by others on the Jesuits and their satanic order, and simply providing 'yourself', and some random (and confused) internet soapbox dude. When will you deal with the "systemic abuse"? When will you deal with the facts of the Jesuits and their origins and machinations since unto today?
     
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    You see, a person will never understand this America* (* SJ - America Magazine ):

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    ... until they understand this, the Bonnet Rouge of the French Revolution and the power (SJ) behind both:

    Bonnet Rouge 01.jpg

    You see, for those with eyes to see and ears to hear, and a heart knowing the times, and understanding what we ought to do, it is plain before all, even mockingly so. If you think that history cannot repeat, you have never understood the scriptures, Ecclesiastes 1:9, 3:15, &c.
     
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    So that video I put up with Ted WIlson, Doug Batchelor........ that all make believe?

    When from the horse's mouth they are telling you they messed up, thats not good enough. There is a reason there is a fight in the general conference. And just like the guy said "we (adventist) are SILENT on abortion."

    And we've had Adventist here laughably try to defend pro-choice abortions.
     
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    I actually know Doug Batchelor, personally, having ministered with that ministry for 8+ years, and I have met Ted Wilson in person (when he came to AFMin after his original stint as Conf. Pres.). You know what exactly? The very video you provided proves your last statement to be incorrect (even as John B.'s (It is Written) statement was overstepping the truth). The facts of the matter is that Seventh-day Adventists (the real ones), even from the beginning, have never been silent on this subject (as elder Ted Wilson stated in the video you provided), or any other matter of truth, and I even provided that documentation for you - for which you did nothing in response, but continue to post 'nonsense' as if I said nothing. One of us is deceived - and greatly. It is also of their own will to be so. Here's the hint - I am not that "One". So, when you say, "Hmmhmm Finally folks snapping out.", you take the video material out of the years of preaching to make the point against yourself. You pretend as if Doug Batchelor, etal simply and recently started preaching on the subject. Nonsense. Go read even Joe Crews, the minister and past president (late) of AFMin. Go read/listen to anything by Breath of Life ministry when CD Brooks (late) was there, or H.L. Cleveland, Stephen D. Lewis, and others. Go back to the 'pioneers' material, like Ellen G. White, Joseph Bates, James White, A. T. Jones, etc.

    I repeat (since you are hard of seeing/hearing, as an adamant stone):

    "The official position of the Seventh-day Adventist movement, even from its key personalities, such as brother James White, sister Ellen G White and others:

    "... ABORTION

    "Few are aware of the fearful extent to which this nefarious business, this worse than develish practice, is carried on in all classes of society! Many a woman determines that she will not become a mother, and subjects herself to the vilest treatment, committing the basest crime to carry out her purpose. And many a man, who has 'as many children as he can support.' instead of restraining his passions, aids in the destruction of the babes he has begotten. {1870 JW, SOAP 100.2}

    "The sin lies at the door of both parents in equal measure; for the father, although he may not always aid in the murder, is always accessory to it, in that he induces, and sometimes even forces upon the mother the condition which he knows will lead to the commission of this crime. {1870 JW, SOAP 100.3}

    "But the effort to destroy the child is [101] many times unsuccessful, and the little one is born with murder in his heart, stamped there by the murderous intentions of his own mother. And what wonder that these inborn passions should lead him to the lowest depths of degradation both as regards the body and the soul! Many a child lives to mature years, dwarfed and deformed in body, and irritable and imbecile in mind, a disgrace to himself and to the race, who might have been a model of beauty and strength, both physically and mentally, but for the attempts of his parents to destroy his life before he was born. {1870 JW, SOAP 100.4}

    "And besides all this, the consequences of such a practice are most disastrous both upon the physical and moral nature of those whose souls are stained with this terrible sin. The general health of the mother is often ruined, and the generative organs seriously injured. No system can endure the shock produced by this unnatural crime without being more or less impaired, while many a woman meets death as a penalty for her sin; others live, but are never again in a condition to conceive, and often suffer constantly in consequence of their fiendish endeavors; while others still are enabled to bear children, but with such anguish as no tongue may tell, and the child thus born is frequently a curse to himself and all with whom he is connected." {1870 JW, SOAP 101.1} ..." - James Springer White (Husband to Ellen G. White, and prominent leader of Seventh-day Adventist Movement), A Solemn Appeal, pages 100.2-101.1

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    "... SPIRITUALISM is the worst form of infidelity, because of its wonder-working, and snake-like charming propensities. We present in this article a few extracts, 1 showing from the writings of spirits and Spiritualists that the tendency of Spiritualism is ungodly and corrupting; that it leads to adultery, fornication, desertions, unjust divorces, prostitution, abortion, insanity, and suicide. {March 25, 1862 JWe, ARSH 131.9} ..." - James Springer White (Husband to Ellen G. White, and prominent leader of Seventh-day Adventist Movement), Advent Review and Sabbath Herald, March 25, 1862, page 131.9" - Roman Catholicism and the total abuse & murder of children (incl. abortion).
    Remind me, who was that Catholic Supreme Court Justice who voted in favour in the Roe V Wade case, and who are the Roman Catholic "Justices" (Ha!, there's an oxy-moron if ever there was one) since, that refuse to over-turn it? Oh, that's right, All of them, even currently still refuse to over-turn it.
     
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    Actually, who is this mystical "they"? Specific names please, with documentation.

    I even gave you from the "horse's mouth" (sic), what Roman Catholicism, and those within it, says about the Jesuits, their origins and machinations.

    There are lots of issues within the Gen. Conf. (meaning theological/practical, etc), and it began long ago (as foretold by sister White), and elder Ted. Wilson, and others, like elder Doug Batchelor, are merely addressing the 'leaves' and not the root. For that, see:



    Actually, that is a mistake. "We", as in real Seventh-day Adventists, have never been silent on matters of truth - any truth, but as it is written, "... For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel" (Rom. 9:6). I have presented the facts of the matter on numerous occasions, at various times, and even in this forum, which you have yet to address. All you do, is simply post 'Pro-Catholic Andrew's' youtube soapbox (and one or two others), and his very slanted agenda. I even told you about my contacting him, of which you did nothing about, even as he chose to ignore my facts presented to him. All he could present, was the Roman Catholic catechism, outside of it's own context, which I showed to him.

    I also asked you for the definition of abortion, on numerous occasions. I still haven't gotten one. See this whole thread, where no such definition from you can be found (148 posts!) - Roman Catholicism and the total abuse & murder of children (incl. abortion).

    If all you want is a 'war of attrition' - so be it. You have it, but the list of catalogued crimes by Roman Catholicism is near endless. I have plenty of material to work with and will continue to post in many forums (not merely this one):

    JESUITS - "the most cruel, unscrupulous, and powerful of all the champions of popery"

    JESUITS - "the most cruel, unscrupulous, and powerful of all the champions of popery"

    etc.

    Oh, that's right, you are going to simply CnP - 'pro-catholic Andrew'. A lone youtuber that cannot even address stated facts, when challenged from both Catholic doctrine and written statements, as well as real (not imaginary) Seventh-day Adventists ones.

    Please produce those materials by links.

    I do find something laughable, and it is your attempt to derail any thread which threatens Rome, by the same old ruse. This thread is about the wicked Jesuit order. You cannot seem to deal with facts, but decide to run with a farce in their place.

    Do you also find this laughable? Remember, "systematic abuse":

    "... The diocese has faced several sex-abuse accusations dating to the 1950s and 1960s, with victims accusing priests and parochial school employees of abuse. In several cases, victims also blamed church authorities for ignoring warning signs and, in at least one instance recorded in court documents, retaliating against a survivor who spoke out.

    The diocese has a publicly available list of 45 names of South Carolina priests who have credible allegations of child sexual misconduct — three more than what was released in 2019. ..." - Bishop England High faces $300M lawsuit over windows that let staff watch kids change

    The list of names - https://charlestondiocese.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/RevisedList_March27.20202.pdf

    The greater list of crimes against children, born and unborn, men and women, boys and girls:

    https://archive.org/download/vatican-crimes-against-children-documented-list/Vatican Crimes Against Children Documented List.pdf

    Jesuits, and their schooling and education, and what should happen to it:


    "... Yes, we repeat it; the nation cannot avoid the most dreadful calamities--from this fatal and corrupt society, unless prompt and vigorous measures can be taken to deliver it from the impending curse.

    The society of Jesus is the enemy of man. The whole human race should unite for its overthrow. Earth and heaven should rejoice together over its tomb. -- For there is no alternative between its total extirpation, and the absolute corruption and degradation of mankind. ..." - Papism in the XIX. Century, in the United States: Being, Select Contributions to the Papal Controversy, During 1835-40. By Robert J. Breckinridge. (sub quote: "We do not look upon the Popish sect as a religion, but rather as a hierarchical tyranny, under a cloak of religion, clothed with the spoils of the civil power, which it has usurped, contrary to our Saviour's own doctrine." -- JOHN MILTON's Def. pro. Pop. Ang. Proef.), Baltimore: David Owen & Son, 2 1/2, N. Gay Street. MDCCCXLI (1841); page 207. - Papism in the XIX. Century, in the United States
     
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    "Sexual abuse scandal in the Society of Jesus" - Sexual abuse scandal in the Society of Jesus - Wikipedia
    1. Abuse in the United States
      Main article: Catholic sexual abuse scandal in the United States
      Diocese of Chicago
      Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic archdiocese of Chicago
      Internal church records released in 2013 indicate that the Jesuits of the Archdiocese of Chicago willfully concealed sex crimes committed by Jesuit priest Donald McGuire for more than four decades. A letter written in 1970 by John Reinke, the president of Loyola Academy where McGuire worked, admitted that McGuire's presence at Loyola was "positively destructive and corrosive," but suggested transferring him to Loyola University instead of sending him to treatment or turning him over to the legal system.[1] McGuire was finally tried for his crimes and found guilty of molesting two teenage students in Wisconsin in 2006.[2] McGuire was sentenced to seven years in prison for this, and was later tried and found guilty for another act of abuse in 2009. This time, he was sentenced to 25 years, making it likely that he would die in prison.[3] McGuire later died in a federal prison in 2017.[4]

      Lawsuit
      Robert Goldberg, one of McGuire's victims who was instrumental in his conviction,[4] filed a lawsuit against both the Midwest Jesuit Province and the main Society of Jesus office in Rome in 2019.[4]

      Diocese of Fairbanks
      Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic diocese of Fairbanks
      In February 2008, the diocese of Fairbanks announced plans to file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, claiming inability to pay the 140 plaintiffs who filed claims against the diocese for alleged sexual abuse by priests or church workers dating from the 1950s to the early 1980s. The Society of Jesus, Oregon Province, was named as a co-defendant in the case, and settled for $50 million.[5] The Diocese, which reports an operating budget of approximately $6 million, claims one of the diocese's insurance carriers failed to "participate meaningfully".[6][7][8][9]

      Diocese of Portland
      Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in Portland archdiocese
      The lawsuits in the Fairbanks diocese have also affected the Jesuit community in the diocese of Portland, given that the Western Province of the American Jesuits is located in the State of Oregon.[10][11] In February 2009, the Province of Oregon became the first Jesuit order to file for bankruptcy.[12] In March 2011, the Oregon Jesuit Province agreed to pay nearly 500 victims of sex abuse $166.1 million[13] As party of the bankruptcy agreement, the Oregon Jesuit Province also disclosed the list of Jesuit clergy who were accused of committing sex abuse.[14]

      Diocese of Boston
      Main article: Sexual abuse scandal in Boston archdiocese
      In 2002, criminal charges were brought against five Roman Catholic priests in the Boston area of the United States, John Geoghan, Paul Desilets,[15] Paul Shanley, Robert V. Gale and Jesuit priest James Talbot, which ultimately resulted in the conviction and sentencing of each to prison.[16]

      Diocese of St Petersburg
      In 1985, Jesuit priest Norman J. Rogge plead guilty to sexually abusing a boy in 1984 and received a one-year prison sentence.[17] He previously plead guilty to another charge of sex abuse against a minor in 1967 and received a sentence of three years probation and forced psychiatric therapy[17]

      Diocese of New Orleans
      By 2019, sex abuse lawsuits which were filed against at least two former Jesuits who were accused of committing sex abuse at Jesuit high schools were settled.[17]

      Cheverus High School
      Main article: Cheverus High School
      In 1998, nine male alumni claimed that they had been molested while attending the Jesuit school Cheverus. Two former faculty members, Jesuit priest and teacher James Talbot and teacher and coach Charles Malia,[18] were accused. The school, located in Portland, Maine, confirmed the abuse and apologized to the victims. The victims also accused both Cheverus High School and the Portland Diocese of hiding information, and that they had previously known about the abuse. Settlements to victims have reached a cumulative seven figures, with ongoing counseling additional. Talbot, who was the former chair of the English Department, and Malia, the former head of the Track Team, have admitted they are guilty. Both teachers lost their jobs at Cheverus in 1998.[18] Before public accusations surfaced that he committed sex abuse at Boston College High School, James Talbot had been accused of molesting a student at Cheverus. [19] On September 24, 2018, Talbot pled guilty to the sex abuse charges in Maine and immediately began serving two concurrent three-year prison sentences.[20][21] ..."
     
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    List of Accused Clergy in Northeast United States

    • On January 15, 2018, the USA Northeast Province of the Society of Jesus released a list Tuesday of 50 priests under its jurisdiction who have been "credibly accused" of sexual misconduct with minors[22] The list includes priests who served in Jesuit high schools and colleges throughout New England, New York and northern New Jersey.[22] However, the list only includes ordained Jesuits and does not include some accused people who were affiliated with the Jesuits.[22] Seven on the list taught at Cheverus High School in Portland, Maine.[22] All but 15 of the Roman Catholic priests on the list are dead, and all of the alleged abuse took place before 1997.[22]

      List of Accused Clergy in Central and Southern United States
      On December 7, 2018, the USA Central and Southern Province of the Society of Jesus released a list of 42 priests under its jurisdiction who had allegations of sex abuse.[23][24][25] The list also includes those from predecessor organizations such as the New Orleans Province, the Missouri Province, and the Independent Region of Puerto Rico of the Society of Jesus.[23][24][25] Those with credible allegations are either deceased or no longer in active ministry,[23][24] while 4 who had less credible allegations are still active in the province.[23][24]

      List of Accused Clergy in Western United States
      On December 7, 2018, the USA West Province released a list of Jesuit clergy who were accused of committing sex abuse while working for areas in the province.[14] Reports of abuse are dated as early as 1950,[14] While the Province of the present-day was formed in 2017.[14] the list includes reported abuse in the former California and the former Oregon Provinces, against whom a credible claim of sexual abuse of a minor (under the age of 18) or a vulnerable adult has been made.[14] The former Oregon Province was also required to release the list of accused clergy as party of its bankruptcy settlement.[14]

      List of Accused Clergy in Midwest United States
      On December 17, 2018, the USA Midwest Province of the Society of Jesus released a list of Jesuits who had accused of molesting children while working for areas in the province.[26] Listed reports of abuse go as early as 1955.[27] The present-day Province was formed in 2017 as a merger between the Chicago, Chicago-Detroit, Detroit, and Wisconsin provinces.[26]

      List of Accused Clergy in Maryland Province
      On December 17, 2018, The USA Maryland Province of the Society of Jesus released the names of Jesuits who had accused of molesting children while working for the Province.[28][29][30][31] The list goes as far back as 1950 at earliest.[32] The Province stretches from the state of Georgia to the areas just below the state of New York .[33]

      Abuse in Germany
      Main article: Catholic sexual abuse scandal in Europe § Germany
      Canisius-Kolleg Berlin
      Main article: Canisius-Kolleg Berlin
      In 2004 and 2005 two former students of the school told the headmaster of this Jesuit school that they had been sexually abused by two of their former teachers. In December 2009 and January 2010 two other boys contacted the headmaster and claimed the same about the same teachers. The headmaster decided to write a letter to all former students in which he stated that he was deeply sorry for what happened. After receiving the letter several others of the former students contacted the headmaster and said that they too had been abused. In January 2010, the headmaster wrote a personal letter of apology to all pupils at the school.[34]

      The names of the former students claiming to be sexually abused have been withheld from the public, but the public was told that many of them were notable scientists or held political or economic positions of power. It was also revealed that some of the alumni who had been abused decided to send their children to the Canisius-Kolleg.[35] One of the teachers has spoken out and said the allegations made against him were true, because he really had abused boys. The teachers might not be sued for what they did, because it seems that in most cases the statute of limitations has passed, but the abused boys wanted them to apologize.[36] Apologies and financial compensations were issued to the victims.[37]

      An investigative report detailing allegations of substantial abuse was released in 2010.[38] ..."
     
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    • Jesuit College of Sankt Blasien
      Main article: Kolleg St. Blasien
      In 2010, Padre Wolfgang S. admitted to several acts of sexual abuse of minors during his years as a teacher in Sankt Blasius from 1982 to 1984. Prior to that he had taught in another Jesuit college in Berlin (Canisius-Kolleg) where he had also molested children. The order in 2010 concedes that upon discovery, his superiors did provide help for him to emigrate to South America. Other cases of sexual abuse of minors in the Jesuit order have also been reported lately and are being investigated. As of February 2010, it seems that all cases have become time-barred.[39]

      Abuse in Latin America
      Main article: Catholic sexual abuse scandal in Latin America
      Affair in Chile
      Rev. Stefan Dartmann disclosed that the same abusive teacher in Germany had been guilty of similar crimes in Jesuit schools in Chile and Spain.[40]

      In August 2019, revelations surfaced that Jesuit Father Renato Poblete, who died in 2010, had sexually abused 18 adult women and four underage female minors.[41] He also impregnated at least one of these women and forced her to have an abortion.[41] One of the minors he abused was only three years old and a daughter of one of his adult victims as well.[41]

      Lawsuit against Rome headquarters
      One December 31, 2019, it was reported that Robert Goldberg, who was sexually abused by the late Chicago-area Jesuit priest Donald J. McGuire, was suing both the Midwest Jesuit Province and the main Society of Jesus office in the Vatican.[42] ..."
     
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    Child Sexual Abuse | Adventist.org

    "The Adventist Christian community is not immune from child sexual abuse. We believe that the tenets of the Seventh-day Adventist faith require us to be actively involved in its prevention. "
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    Seventh-day Adventist church sued over allegations of abuse in youth program

    “This is a situation where they knew this guy had abused kids and they didn’t just let him in the church, they put him in charge of the youth program,” said attorney Peter Janci, one of two attorneys representing the plaintiffs.
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    Must be from all the Jesuits in the SDA.
     
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    Paul Kengor, a conservative Roman Catholic Historian, discussed Marxism and how the Jesuits are buying in to liberation theology today.
     
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    You just might be on to something ... but ask yourself, is it systematic?
     
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    There are predators in every organization. What they do is not a perk its a problem.
     
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    Theodore Griesinger (German Historian) - Google Translate

    "... To wit, on the occasion of a trial which had been instituted in the year 1617, before the Crown Law Court in Lisbon, in which the Jesuits appeared as the party accused, the aforesaid Procurator-General ["Procurator-General Royal, Don Seabra da Sylva, who under Joseph I., had to examine the acts of the Jesuits"] entered the following remarks concerning them: -- "It had gone so far as this, that no one dare venture to proceed against the Jesuits in an allowable way, without being thrown into the sea, assassinated, or, indeed, punished as an enemy of the King and Government, and, this being the case, they had indeed usurped the sole lordship over the whole of Portugal." Such a statement as this appears to me to be sufficiently plain, and I have, therefore, nothing more to add to it. ..." - The Jesuits; A Complete History Of Their Open And Secret Proceedings From The Foundation Of The Order To The Present Time, Told To The German People By Theodor Griesinger., Translated By A. J. Scott. M.D., Second Edition (1885), page 180 - The Jesuits

    "... the whole frightful responsibility for this terrible thirty years' war must rest upon the Emperor Ferdinand II., and his teachers, ruler, and bosom friends, the sons of Loyola. ..." - The Jesuits; A Complete History Of Their Open And Secret Proceedings From The Foundation Of The Order To The Present Time, Told To The German People By Theodor Griesinger., Translated By A. J. Scott. M.D., Second Edition (1885), page 256 - The Jesuits
     
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