Can Luke 17:37 Be Translated Better in KJV?

Can Luke 17:37 be translated Better in the KJV?

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At this link above is Strong's Concordance; left column has the Books of the Bible & blue numbers listed in each book for chapters. You can scroll down in left column to Luke & click on 17. Then scroll to the bottom of the main page to the last verse where the Greek in blue is above the verse 37 in English. Click on the third long blue Greek from mirroring the end of that last verse & see what that Greek term "sunago" is as defined.

Then compare with the last Greek text mirroring the end of that verse in blue & click on that to see how "aetos" is defined.

Luke 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together. KJV

Compare to the modern Bibles;

Luke 17:37 “Where, Lord?” they asked . He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.” ~ NIV

Luke 17:37 And responding, they *said to Him, “Where, Lord?” And He said to them, “Where the body is, there also the vultures will be gathered.” NASB

Luke 17:37 And they said to him, “Where, Lord?” He said to them, “Where the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.” ESV

Interesting note; the RSV has it as eagles but the New Revised Standard changed it.

Luke 17:37 And they said to him, “Where, Lord?” He said to them, “Where the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together.” RSV

Luke 17:37 Then they asked him, “Where, Lord?” He said to them, “Where the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.” NRSV

There is a teaching out that that is applying Luke 17:26-37 as meaning only the bad people are removed. Some may even apply this to what happens at the end of the great tribulation.

But sunago informs us that the ones taken are received with hospitality & by wing-like flight too.

It looks like most of these modern versions did not translate from the Greek but looked at the KJV and changed it from the English.

With the false teaching out there that there is no pre great tribulation rapture & that it happens at the end of the great tribulation, I can see why they changed the Bible to that effect, but the Greek says otherwise.

Can Luke 17:37 be better translated in the KJV to show that meaning of being received with hospitality & by wing-like flight too, or not? When reading Luke 17:26-37 in context, I understand it to mean rapture of the saints before the great tribulation. I mean, really, those who remain, destruction falls on them so hardly removing the bad guys. Somehow I think modern Bibles derived that errant translation of vultures because of not inferring the body as the body of Christ rather than as a corpse for why they injected vulture in there.

 

How much is it an assumption if you cannot prove where those other modern Bibles got vulture from in the Greek? How is it that in context Luke 17:26-37 proves it is not vultures & it is not the bad guys being removed as that false teaching exists today?

 

You should start another thread on that and not go off topic further.

The thread is about how Luke 17:37 can be better translated or not in the KJV to convey how those are taken by wing-like flight & with hospitality as the Strong's Concordance of the Greek defines. When read in context, I understand it as rapture of the saints but it seems verse 17 could have been translated better, but then again, on careful noting how "sunago" is only part of the long Greek word that is translated, perhaps the long Greek word containing sunago defines sunago the way it is written in English that the Strong's Concordance does not have definitions for in relation to sunago.

 

Thank you for sharing.

It is important to point out that eagles is still being referred to in Matthew 24:38 & that "sunago" is still derived from that long Greek word where they are being received with hospitality.

Since there is a Marriage Supper being held in Heaven with the abiding Bride & Bridegroom together in this sitting down ( Luke 13:24-30 & Luke 14:15-24 ) at this King's Supper, it is to this truth the body may very well be applied towards as meaning the marriage Supper & why eagles is used rather than vultures in referring to the abiding saints as opposed to the bad guys being removed from the earth.

 

I agree since I can see no way they got vulture out of aetos which is for eagle or wing-like flight.

Since we do not know for sure other than what appears to be how they had done it, vulture is not found in the Greek regardless.

Thank you for sharing.

 

It does looks that way. It is possible that Strong's Concordance has all the knowledge for the Greek in how it is applied in scripture. I look at "sunago" which is only part of the Greek word that is translated out of that long Greek word for being received with hospitality & the KJV may had sources of knowledge for how that sunago is used within that long Greek word. In other words, the long Greek word that sunago is only a part of, the whole long Greek word may confine its meaning to infer what verse 37 says. Sort of like... by the Spirit in us, we can know what verse 37 is metaphorically applied as by taking it in context with the rest of Luke 17:26-37 in that the disciples abiding in Him are taken by wing-like flight & received with hospitality to the Marriage Supper in Heaven above.

Thanks for sharing.

 

Okay. I am glad that you saw your link in that next post as something owing its own thread. You are free to leave a link to that thread in this thread to draw others to that topic, because addressing everything at that link deserves its own thread.

But I understand what had happened for posting the link when it was a reference to "one" among the many things mentioned at that link that was for the discussion in this thread. Probably should give directions where to find that one reference at that link that is applicable for the thread's discussion next time you give a link that gives a lot of information not relevant to the topic at hand. Like how many paragraphs down or look for the heading when you scroll halfway or a quarter or three quarters down etc.

Thanks for sharing.

 

I already created that thread so you do not have to. Here it is at the link below.

Supposedly "KJV Only" Refuted At This Link

You are welcome.