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"... white Christianity is doomed..."

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Wesley Briggman, Feb 9, 2021.

  1. Wesley Briggman

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    [Gen 12:1-3 KJV] 1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

    Luther cursed the Jews and is under the curse of God.
     
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    Blanket commendation of all physical Jews is clearly unbiblical. No servant of God, no prophet of God ever suggested doing such a thing.

    Blanket condemnation of all physical Jews is clearly unbiblical. No servant of God, no prophet of God ever suggested doing such a thing.
     
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    who is under the curse of God?
     
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    Asia Minor is not Europe.

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    I don't know what point you're trying to make. I told you and agree that Japheth is the European white folk. To him was given blessing with Shem.

    To Ham, no blessing, and a curse.

    Thus, (Acts 16:6-10) is in harmony with (Gen.9:24-27) The blessing was to Shem. Japheth entered into those blessings and was given the promise of being enlarged. Which the white race has over the world.

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  6. Scott Downey

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    Abraham is who God was referring towards regarding the curse. And the great nation Abraham fathers is not all Jews, just those who are of the faith of Abraham and includes believers today.
    Romans 4:16
    Therefore it is of faith that it might be according to grace, so that the promise might be sure to all the seed, not only to those who are of the law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all

    Many Jews did not and still do not believe, example their bones God scattered in the wilderness, they resist the Holy Spirit, Acts 7, and God is not pleased with them.
    Jesus and Paul go into detail about those are of the faith of Abraham, versus Jews who are not of the faith of Abraham.

    Example is in John 8
    37 “I know that you are Abraham’s descendants, but you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you. 38 I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you do what you have seen with your father.”

    39 They answered and said to Him, “Abraham is our father.”

    Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. 41 You do the deeds of your father.”

    God clearly makes a distinction, we also need to do the same.
    Paul further refines this to Isaac being the chosen one, saying we believers today are as Isaac was, children of the promise. No one else was blessed with salvation.

    Paul also notes the downfall of the unbelieving Jews is God's wrath on them. Why don't you talk more like Jesus and Paul?
    How about criticizing Jesus and Paul like your doing with Luthor?

    1 Thessalonians 2
    13 For this reason we also thank God without ceasing, because when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you welcomed it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which also effectively works in you who believe. 14 For you, brethren, became imitators of the churches of God which are in Judea in Christ Jesus. For you also suffered the same things from your own countrymen, just as they did from the Judeans, 15 who killed both the Lord Jesus and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they do not please God and are contrary to all men, 16 forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they may be saved, so as always to fill up the measure of their sins; but wrath has come upon them to the uttermost.

    God brought gentile nations against the Jews to demonstrate His wrath towards them, and He also intervened supernaturally killing many of them.

    Romans 10
    19 But I say, did Israel not know? First Moses says:

    “I will provoke you to jealousy by those who are not a nation,
    I will move you to anger by a foolish nation.”

    20 But Isaiah is very bold and says:

    “I was found by those who did not seek Me;
    I was made manifest to those who did not ask for Me.”

    21 But to Israel he says:

    “All day long I have stretched out My hands
    To a disobedient and contrary people.”
     
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    I guess that's why God used him to set off the Reformation which brought freedom to the people of God.

    And what did the resurrected and glorified Christ call the Jews? (Rev. 2;9) "...I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."

    As i said, individuals are saved by the blood of Christ. By faith in His blood. They are not saved by how they treat the Jews.

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    learn!
     
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    The book of Ezekiel utterly destroys the fallacies of Replacement Theologists and the anti-Semitism produced by Replacement Theologists.

    I encounter very few "Christians" that seek to understand the whole council of the Word of God. I call this generation the "Ala Carte" generation.

    The Lord will, at the time appointed, remove the heart of stone, and replace it with a heart of flesh. And they shall be His people and He shall be their God. And they shall serve Him eternally.

    BUT, they shall bear their shame. And they shall loathe themselves. With our merciful God, this is sufficient, But with the cruelty of the Replacement Theologists, they must be cast off. The Hypocrisy of the Replacement Theologists is pathetic. There is none righteousness, no not one.
     
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    Yes Romans 11 Paul tells us such. For now hardening - blindness has come upon the Jews from God and the gospel has gone to the gentiles. The apostles knew that as Acts 15, the Jerusalem council explains. But the hardening will be removed before the end comes for those God intends to redeem.
    It really comes down to that some gentiles and some jews do believe according the the grace of God for them, but not all of them believe.

    25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
     
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    Did not the Lord tell the Prophet that he had reserved unto Himself a faithful remnant that did not bow down to Baal? Election all the way thru the bible...
     
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    'blindness in part' happened to Israel, but some did believe and some do believe today.
    John 12
    37 But although He had done so many signs before them, they did not believe in Him, 38 that the word of Isaiah the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spoke:

    “Lord, who has believed our report?
    And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?”

    39 Therefore they could not believe, because Isaiah said again:

    40 “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts,
    Lest they should see with their eyes,
    Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
    So that I should heal them.”

    41 These things Isaiah said when he saw His glory and spoke of Him.

    42 Nevertheless even among the rulers many believed in Him, but because of the Pharisees they did not confess Him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue; 43 for they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.

    If you do not confess Him before men, neither will Christ confess you before the Heavenly Father.
    He wont confess your name to God, that you belong to God.

    You must believe in your heart that God raised Christ from the dead, and the Jesus is Lord to be saved. At this point in John 12, Christ had not yet died to be raised.
     
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    Yes, God always has His election going on among the Jewish people every generation!
     
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    Sure has.
     
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    God now seems to be also calling out to Himself Muslims to be saved as never before in history!
     
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    Hope so
     
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    Individuals are born-again by the Holy Spirit and saved by grace, which is a gift of God.

    [Jhn 3:5-7 KJV] 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again

    [Eph 2:8 KJV] 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
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    I have already learned that Asia Minor is not Europe. Do you want me to re-learn?

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    Well...that's what I said.

    Thus Luther was a Christian.

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    The Thunderstorm that Changed Martin Luther's Life
    "Martin Luther was studying law at a university. And he was terribly frightened by a bolt of lightning that came near him. He cried out, "St. Anne, help me! I will become a monk!" St. Anne was the patroness of miners..."

    If you consider this account to be Luther's salvation experience, so be it. I do not.

    As far as I have been able to find out, he never had an encounter with the Holy Spirit resulting in him becoming a child of God.

    Therefore, I conclude he was a lost sinner, enemy of God, used by Satan to confuse mankind concerning the gospel.

    Concerning the reformation he started, what is the consistent doctrine of salvation throughout the denominations that identify as "reformed"?

    If there is no consistency, then confusion must prevail.

    I grew up in as a Lutheran, was an alter-boy, etc., and never heard that I needed to be born again.

    [2Pe 2:1 KJV] 1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

    [1Co 14:33 KJV] 33 For God is not [the author] of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
     
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