Featured 20 minute vid argues that Rev 20 teaches annihilationism!

I think you should present what you are stating in your video in 4 for 5 sentences.

 

Thank you, and I certainly agree that the Lake of Fire imposes the second death upon the lost. Just how long the lost suffer before their end does not seem to be made clear by the text, but the duration of dying is probably not eternal, as that would constitute being alive forever.

 

Revelation 14:,9-11,". . . If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. . . ."

 

It teaches eternal torment. The written word of God nowhere teaches annihiation. Another example, Revelation 20:10, ". . . And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

 

In Jude 7 we read, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire". Which was written thousands of years after the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrha, and yet Jude says, "υπεχουσαι", which is the Greek verb in the present tense, "continue to suffer". These were clealy not "annihilated". Then we have in Revelation 19:20, "And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone". This is before the 1000 Year Reign. And, in chapter 20 we read, "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever" (verse 10). Where the use of βασανισθησονται, which is in the plural number, shows that 1000 years later, when the Devil was cast into the Lake of Fire and Brimstone, both the beast and false prophet were still there! Again, "annihilation", cannot be used for this.

 

Two things. To watch the video. That you claim that it to teach Revelation does not treach what it explicitly does teach. So I will watch it when I make some time for me to do so. I guess I will just have to wait to find out why you couldn't give a simple proof.

 

Gehenna (the valley of burning trash right outside the walls of Jerusalem) … a good visual image for First Century Jews of Eternal Burning Torment in Hell.

 

you have FAILED to show from the Bible, not personal opinion, that what I have said to be wrong. These verses and others, show that your belief is heretical, and from the devil!

 

Mark:
What difference does this idea make? . If you go to hell you will not like it, Either way tormented day and night or annihilation really isn't all that important, because in both cases you will be separated from God. Man would rather be annihilated because this means an end of punishment. There is no end to eternity..
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Hi Mark, I have seen you on here a number of times, pushing hard your personal belief on "Annihilation". Very sadly you have been deceived by the devil into believing his LIES on this. This is one of the greatest HERESIES in the Church from the earliest of times, and like the other HERESY known as "Atheism", is becoming more popular today, as the end of this world draws to a close, and The Lord Jesus Christ Returns. There is only one place for the origin of this teaching, and that is the father of LIES, the devil himself. Who has also deceived many millions onto another FALSE teaching, which is that he himself does not even exist!

 

I learned from college professors, who are of the church of Chas Darwin, that there actually are life forms, organisms that live and thrive in the frozen solid artic waters and there are others in waters that are heated to a very high temperature and containing toxic (to mammals) elements from magma seeping from below the earths crust. And still others in oxygen depleted environments that would cause humans to die instantly if exposed to that environment.

Of course I'm a rube of sorts but I read this:

The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Rev 20:10

And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
Rev 20:15

The devil and beast and false prophet tormented forever in the lake of fire. Joining them are the unbelievers.

A 30 second exposition that seems simple enough.

 

why not? It IS important, because eternal punishmeant and NOT annihilation, that is ONLY Taught in the Bible!