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unvaccinated a threat to the nation, the LEFT now says

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Scott Downey, Jul 17, 2021.

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  1. dad2

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    I asked you to prove that the deaths were bonifide covid caused deaths and not merely covid associated ones. Your fail screams out at us.

    They should add in the life expectancy of the unborn in 1918 compared to the millions of babies slaughtered each years today. Then they should look at all the babies that will not be able to live because the reproduction system may be affected by the vaccines! The medical monsters that snuff out the lives of millions of children in the womb are the same ones involved in the experimental jab. Those covering for them and pushing the lockdowns, mask foolishness, and dictatorial freedom stealing measures also mute the voices of tens of thousands of medical professionals that disagree with the madness. Yech.
     
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    Now if truth was involved and a media collusion was not involved, we might see a unity in the reports. It seems that for every bit of news that leaks out that the big media guys may not like, there is a supposed correction or 'fact' check.

    From your article "It’s true that most new cases are coming from the vaccinated community.." !! Ha. What more needs be said?
    Like I would ask the (gag) Washington Post what is deceptive or true?
     
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    My point is people will find the "proof" for whatever position they hold.

    We cannot assume an article is correct just because it comes from an anti-established media source....or that it is false if carried by "big media".

    Today "truth" is subjective. People have a position and then they choose sources that support their views. This is true not only with "news" but with theology as well.

    I do not trust "big media" or their anti counterpart.

    With the vaccine my choice was simple. It was based on personal experience and a preference to not wear a mask.

    I had seen friends die of COVID, or suffer post COVID complications. Those who were vaccinated did not get the virus even as their coworkers became sick.

    I do not live in fear (of the "cure" or the disease). So I made a choice and encourage others to do the same (not get a vaccine but make their own choice and not out of fear).
     
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    Yet another request for me to prove something to someone unwilling to grasp reality. Personal incredulity, Sir, is a fallacious argument.
     
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    Are we to conclude that these shots aren’t working?
     
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    Fear though is a powerful motivator... generally followed by irrational decisions. The government and the media however has played into this fear in order to widely distribute their experimental drug (knowing full well that people are getting sick on it). Then it becomes a percentage and perception game and one not being totally honest with the American public. You only know about people getting sick from the vaccine because people are speaking out! How deceptive is that!?!
     
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    True. On one hand people are dying of COVID, and people are using fear to persuade others to get vaccinated regardless of risk category. And on the other hand, people do get sick from the vaccine (thus far people have not died from the vacvine itself, but that is always a possibility). And people are using this fear to persuade others not to get vaccinated.

    Too many are mastered by fear (vax and non-vax folks).

    I keep thinking of an old show....Fantasy Island, I believe....where a woman went back in time and gave aspirin to someone, only to be declared a witch.
     
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    Right, and people familiar with truth should know that if we want truth, the media is not the place to find it. We should also know that the regimes such as those in Canada and the US stand for evil in many ways. The media also. The proof believers would want comes from God and His word. Does God want millions to starve over hyped up lockdowns? Does God want babies killed and their bodies used for various purposes like research? Does God want to hush up cures for a disease while promoting only one method that requires believing liars and a heavy handed power grab as well? Does God want believers to be able to meet, or would He prefer muting worship songs, meetings, bible studies and etc? Does God want all people on earth to receive an experimental needle to be able to buy or sell or move? Believers might weigh in with the bible to see what is from God and what has bad fruit.

    Right, I think the better policy might be to automatically disbelieve mainstream media unless evidenced and confirmed, and to also take all media with a grain of salt. Everything the known liars of mainstream media say should be tossed out of court so to speak.

    For the world, truth is whatever they wish that particular day, that is about right. However the actual truth changes not. When we know the truth in our hearts, the voice of another we will not follow. His sheep know His voice. They can tell when the wolves are pretending to be good. When we see a wicked regime advocating mass murder of babies, and the molestation of children with lies and unnatural sexual teachings, and the hatred of God and His word, and the persecution of believers, and etc -we can know that whatever it says is probably sinister and dangerous and wrong! As for the articles saying that there are many ways to fight the bio weapon disease and it's variants the question we should be asking is why has this not been promoted and at the front and centre of the approach to deal with it? Instead it is obvious that such alternatives have been attacked and buried since the days of Trump in the media.

    I understand. Most people I know did the same. The only fix offered was basically the shots. Personally. I do not like the folks advocating this new world order and 'reality' such as the Biden regime, the Trudeau regime, social media giants, the mainstream media propaganda machine, Fauci or the medical system heads and voices hired by governments, etc. I lean toward Psalm 1 as my guide there. Blessed is the man that walketh not in the council of the ungodly!


    I never said you did fear. The people I know had mixed reasons for getting the experimental needles. Some did fear because of compromised health. Some had worked in the system and basically just had blind trust in it, as well as a distrust for anyone questioning it as a whole. Others just wanted to travel soon, and not be treated as outcasts or disadvantaged financially etc.
     
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    If you claim the stats on covid deaths do not include deaths merely associated with the virus in some ways other than directly dying solely because of covid itself, you would need evidence.

    In BC Canada, for example, the college of physicians and surgeons said this

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    1. Recording COVID-19 on the medical certificate of cause of death

     
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    More, change the subject obfuscation. About 10,000 American's died from COVID in June, but about 99% of them were unvaccinated. First they demand the links, then they claim the information is bogus. See a pattern of denial of the obvious?
     
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    The links are not what anyone demanded actually. You need to prove that the actual deaths FROM covid itself are the numbers quoted in the links! Now if we look around the world, when they use the same vaccines, one would expect the numbers would be somewhat similar. However when we see very high numbers in one area and high numbers saying the opposite in another area, that means something is rotten in Denmark. (if MOST of the dead in Israel, for example were vaccinated, and the Biden regime or US sources said '99%' of the dead were UNvaccinated, that really should tell us something) Sorry you missed it.
     
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    I’ll post the current VAERS US #’s, which on July 9, stood at just under 11,000 deaths, & 486,000 injuries. That report breaks down the injuries. New charts come out tomorrow.
     
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    Left considers them acceptable losses, even desired losses. One of their goals is depopulation, course they won't say it openly. The depopulation agenda is documented in their population controls. One example is they offer no treatments. Just morphine, etc... for covid patients who often die in days of them being treated by the protocol.
     
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    I got Covid the last week of may. I almost died from it. They placed me in a ward in the hospital. with other covid patients. I was scared out of my wits when a man in my room died the first day I was there. Strange as it may seem I was like some of you not willing to risk it. A fellow Christian in my church warned me that this shot could be the mark of the devil. Another told us that it hasn't been tested enough and her father died from it.

    When I came home from the hospital I heard on the news you can get it more than once. I went and got vaccinated twice. If the Lord comes before this is over with My Savoir will know I did all I could do to live. I didn't give up on life even though I sometimes feel like I should. I'm 77 years years young I have diabetes and rheumatoid arthritis.not to mention several other ails.I've known pain for a long time. It lets me know I haven't lost yet. The Lord is always with me.Because I'm saved by the Blood of Christ and have no fear of going home to be with my Lord.
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    Thanks for sharing, glad you seem on the mend. You should have had antibody protection from having survived. What treatment did they give you in the hospital?
     
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    National Vaccine Information Center
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    The National Vaccine Information Center, founded under the name Dissatisfied Parents Together in 1982, is an American 501c organization that has been widely criticized as a leading source of fearmongering and misinformation about vaccines. While NVIC describes itself as the "oldest and largest consumer led organization advocating for the institution of vaccine safety and informed consent protections", it promotes false and misleading information including the discredited claim that vaccines cause autism, and its campaigns portray vaccination as risky, encouraging people to consider "alternatives."
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    This shows you these people aren't anything but a scare you site
     
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    I was on a ventilator for a week they gave antibiotics Kept me from becoming dehydrated and and treated me for blood clots. Gave me several CT scans and treated me for my heart stopping. I can tell you I thought I was immune because of an arthritic drug I take called Hydroxichloriquin. It does nothing to fight the disease as I had thought.. I've lost just over 40 LBS because of appetite and being sick as in vomiting .and diarrhea.
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