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Will there ever be a new literary Textus Receptus Bible?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Guido, Aug 18, 2021.

  1. Guido

    Guido Active Member

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    As the KJV is accurately translated from the only reliable manuscripts we have of the Bible in the original language, many regard it to be the Word of God in English, some believing that the KJV itself is inspired and that its language is superior to that of the original manuscripts. Furthermore, the language of the KJV is extraordinarily elegant, containing various kinds of cadence and almost every rhetorical device imaginable. Therefore many read strictly the KJV and no modern Bibles.

    But because the language of the KJV can be difficult for many to understand, and because its language is archaic, many turn to more modern alternatives, which fall short of the beauty and perfection of the KJV. Therefore my question is this: Will there ever be a new Bible, like the KJV, translated from the right manuscripts, just as beautiful as the KJV, but modern and easy to understand?

    Note: I'm not stating that the KJV is the only Word of God in English as a fact, but as a debatable position, although that is not the subject of this thread.
     
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    RipponRedeaux Well-Known Member

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    You should have taken my advice and read "The King James Only Controversy." Most of the things you have said in your post above are mistaken.
    No translation is perfect.
    The amenders of the 1611 were fallible men. A number of experts believe that the Geneva Bible was better. Others insist that the language of the Matthew's Bible is unrivaled. And Tyndale's final edition is hailed by many as the best. Rogers just modified it very little.
     
  3. Guido

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    I was reading "The KJV Only Controversy" yesterday and also listening to a video called the "KJV Only Controversy" on youtube.

    My main problem with the modern Bibles is Isaiah 14 in the modern Bibles. Compare Isaiah 14 with Revelation 22. Also Micah 2:5 (I think) or 5:2 (not sure which one) is a problem in the modern Bibles.

    But I just want to discuss a new literary translation of the TR in this thread. Sorry for getting off topic.
     
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    RipponRedeaux Well-Known Member

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    Guido, the Revised English Bible, first published 32 years ago, may be the finest English translation as far as literary merits are concerned. There are some unique British expressions scattered about, but the language is beautiful. This is not a blanket endorsement of the translation as a whole. I have some objections here and there. It is not my go-to Bible version. But it is one of a dozen or so that I consult for comparison sake.
    You won't find it on Bible Hub or BibleGateway.
    This is Ephesians 2:1-10 :

    You once were dead because of your sins and wickedness; you followed the ways of this present world order, obeying the commander of the spiritual powers of the air, the spirit now at work among God's rebel subjects. We too were once of their number: we were ruled by our physical desires, and did what instinct and evil imagination suggested. In our natural condition we lay under the condemnation of God like the rest of mankind. But God is rich in mercy, and because of his great love for us, he brought us to life with Christ when we were dead because of our sins; it is by grace you are saved. And he raised us up in union with Christ Jesus and enthroned us with him in the heavenly realms, so that he might display in the ages to come how immense are the resources of his grace, and how great his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. For it is by grace you are saved through faith; it is not your own doing. It is God's gift, not a reward for work done. There is nothing for anyone to boast of; we are God's handiwork, created in Christ Jesus for the life of good deeds which God designed for us.
     
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    We already have it, called the NKJV!
     
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    RipponRedeaux Well-Known Member

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    Oh really? I haven't heard that the NKJV has extraordinarily elegant English, smooth cadence and maintains every rhetorical device.
     
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    Its updated version of the Kjv
     
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    Duh, of course it is. Is that supposed to be news? It doesn't have all the praiseworthy qualities that the 1611 allegedly has.
     
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    @Guido,
    Well, it may very well be the Family 35 Greek New Testament is overall better than the TR.
     
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    Has better accuracy!
     
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    The specific qualities that Guido enumerated in the OP and I echoed in post #6 is what is under discussion.
     
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