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Ashli Babbitt killer comes forward.

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by carpro, Aug 31, 2021.

  1. Reynolds

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    Every person brandishing a brick was a "good shoot". The person standing beside him with no brick was a "bad shoot".
     
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    not an equivalent comparison
     
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  3. Baptist Believer

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    Capitol Police had been doing ALL of that, but Babbitt breached the last line of defense.

    The standards you were under are not the same as the Capitol Police. It is a completely different situation, AND Babbitt was not just one actor, but one person out of a huge mob of persons acting in a coordinated way.

    Completely different situation.
     
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    The rioters were not just shouting threats and profanities at them. They were attacking with stated intent to harm our nation's officeholders who were trying to evacuate the area.
     
  5. Reynolds

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    The standards not the situations are different. M.O.J. were the standards set by Federal courts. They listed no exception for Capital Police. Policy can restrict officers to a higher standard than the law, but policy can not broaden an officers authority past that given him by law.
    M.O J. Was not met.
     
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    The officials were already secure. They were not threatening violence.
     
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    Not sure about a 20ft rule for sword wielding maniacs; perhaps you could reference that statute.

    I thought the Atlanta officer was exonerated, and all charges dropped.

    Again, concerning the capital shooting, I’m giving the officer the benefit of the doubt. He was there, making split second decisions concerning the threat level.

    peace to you
     
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  8. Baptist Believer

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    They are the Capitol Police (Capitol is a building, while Capital has a variety of meanings, including the city where government is housed), so they are not a municipal police department, but a hybrid force providing personal protection (like the Secret Service does for the President and Vice President) and securing the Capitol facilities and grounds.

    As presented previously, the situation met the standards of the Capitol Police:

    Not according to the testimony of all involved.

    They were COMMITTING violence, breaking through the doors and windows, and Babbitt ignored the warning of the officer. (Also a hyperlink.)
     
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    Ignoring orders to stop does not justify a shooting. M.O.J. justifies a law enforcement shooting. It does not matter where it occurs.
     
  10. carpro

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    I revise my comment. It appears that only for partisan political reasons will you condone murder.

    At least, I hope that's the case.
     
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    If you can get me in front of him, I will have no problem saying it to his face, after introducing myself
     
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    I don't know about that. Democrats love killing innocent people. (Abortion)
     
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    I'm being kind. ;)
     
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    Why do you need me?

    Peace to you
     
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    I don't.Not for anything at all.

    Until just recently, the coward was being shielded for political reasons.

    He's a murderer, pure and simple.
     
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    AFAIC, the above statement is accurate, AND, IMHO, gives him two strikes against him to start.

    Edited to add: Again, IMHO, the only reason this is popping up in the news now is to distract from that hellish blunder in Afghanistan.
     
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    Your are a liar, and worse.

    I do not condone murder at all.
     
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    Tell you what. If you really want to confront him “face to face” I suggest you call the capitol police.

    Just say, “I’m carpo. I’ve been anonymously slandering the officer that shot Ms. Babbitt on the internet; calling him a murderer and a coward. Someone pointed out I was a hypocrite and a coward myself because I am slandering him anonymously and it hurt my feelings. My manhood is now in question.

    I would very much like to meet the officer, so I can call him a murderer and a coward to his face. I don’t want to harm him, just call him names. Could you please arrange that meeting so I can restore my manhood on the BB?”

    For the record, I’m being sarcastic. I don’t really want you to call the capitol police. That would be a very stupid thing to do.

    So, please, don’t do it! Please, oh please, don’t!!!

    Peace to you
     
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    And you think that would work? :Roflmao

    He wouldn't dare to face me, just like he hasn't dared to face anyone else, especially her family.
     
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    Officers are trained to not draw their weapons unless the threat is present.

    Giving commands to “stop” at the point is like giving commands to “drop the sword” before he gets within 20ft.

    Sorry, couldn’t help myself.

    peace to you
     
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