New Study Shatters Narrative Surrounding COVID Hospitalizations

Sorry about what happened. This is also happening to many other people thanks to Fauci's political influence and control over the AMA etc.... I really think years from now, Fauci will be shown to be a mass murderer, which I think is deliberate on his part, not coincidental as of natural circumstances for this disease.

 

No.

Your claim, your responsibility to support.

I never fob off my responsibility to support my claim onto others. You, and others apparently do not have the same standards.

 

This debate had been ongoing for a year. Thousands of posts. Numerous links.

Just because you come late to the discussion, doesn’t mean everyone else has repost everything.

You are joining a discussion in progress. I suggest you educate yourself before you offer opinions.

peace to you

 

Naysayers and disparagers have one thing in common, they deny the obvious. About half of the 2021 Covid hospitalizations were not for Covid, but were for something else, thus the hospitalizations were "with Covid" but not "for Covid."

 

And I suggest you comply with the obligation to defend your own claims.

We all know what is going on. You will not support your claim because there is, in fact, no credible support for it.

Either that or you are so distorting the finding as to effectively promote a falsehood.

 

I am not obligated to “prove” water is wet because you are ignorant of basic facts.

Again, it was widely reported when Trump signed the first Covid bill that hospitals would be reimbursed for every Covid infection treated. That gives hospitals monetary incentives to classify as many patients as possible as Covid patients.

That subject has been discussed on this board. Educate yourself before engaging in discussions.

Go to google. Type the words, “are hospitals reimbursed for treating Covid infections”? Read the link. Believe what you read.

Ta Da! You have educated yourself. Engage in intelligent conversations. Make meaningful statements.

peace to you

 

A ridiculous statement - you are, of course, obligated to defend your claims. Simply claiming your assertion is self-evident is beyond the pale.

You need to provide credible evidence that the way hospitals have counted covid cases is not legitimate. And, no, one anecdote does not constitute such evidence.

You will, of course, not produce such evidence since the basic claim that hospitals have systematically overcounted covid cases is false.

The intellectual discipline in this forum on the matter of covid and the vaccines is appalling - we see systematic lying, appeals to entirely disreputable sources, inflammatory rhetoric, and shameless evasion.

 

The OP is about overstatement of Covid cases by hospitals by nearly half.

Since you have made the basic claim that the OP is untrue, by your own standards, you must prove your claim.

But you will not. That would require you to educate yourself on the facts of the debate, which you have no desire to do.

If you live in ignorance, it’s better not to say anything.

peace to you

 

If only…..leftists were as smart as they thought they were. They are SO deluded that they actually believe they will be sheltered by the elites who they fervently carry water for. Hilarious. Sad, really, but hilarious none the less.
Look at Newsome…wins by hook or crook, the same voting flip numbers were seen on CNN in real time, which they promptly covered up, & now Newsome claims people voted for MORE lockdown policy. Sure they did. Lefties get the shaft from lefty policy, control over your freedoms, higher taxes, regulations & on & on, just like the rest, but they will like it. Deluded.

 

My concern was with post 4:

About half of the 2021 Covid hospitalizations were not for Covid.

I have proven that the that is claim is not supported by the article. Refer to post 9, for example.

 

Re: the bolded: “ ‘Tis better to keep quiet & be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!”

 

This is an important point worth addressing. Andre may well be right that there are a host of unwarranted hospitalizations, that is, those with mild cases of COVID and nothing else.

Those soley with mild COVID cases should not need hospitalization and no one in their right mind should think it an honest policy to admit such cases.

And then there is the added possibility of causing even more cases within the hospital.

"Free" money or OPM can be tempting and there may even be rewards besides taking that money.

 

Are you serious? Is there no limit to your fevered speculations?