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Masks and Viruses

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by JonC, Sep 28, 2021.

  1. JonC

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    How do N95 masks block SARS-CoV-2?
    N95 masks are designed to remove more than 95% of all particles that are at least 0.3 microns (µm) in diameter. In fact, measurements of the particle filtration efficiency of N95 masks show that they are capable of filtering ≈99.8% of particles with a diameter of ≈0.1 μm (Rengasamy et al., 2017). SARS-CoV-2 is an enveloped virus ≈0.1 μm in diameter, so N95 masks are capable of filtering most free virions, but they do more than that. How so? Viruses are often transmitted through respiratory droplets produced by coughing and sneezing. Respiratory droplets are usually divided into two size bins, large droplets (>5 μm in diameter) that fall rapidly to the ground and are thus transmitted only over short distances, and small droplets (≤5 μm in diameter). Small droplets can evaporate into 'droplet nuclei', remain suspended in air for significant periods of time and could be inhaled. Some viruses, such as measles, can be transmitted by droplet nuclei (Tellier et al., 2019). Larger droplets are also known to transmit viruses, usually by settling onto surfaces that are touched and transported by hands onto mucosal membranes such as the eyes, nose and mouth (CDC, 2020). The characteristic diameter of large droplets produced by sneezing is ~100 μm (Han et al., 2013), while the diameter of droplet nuclei produced by coughing is on the order of ~1 μm (Yang et al., 2007). At present, it is unclear whether surfaces or air are the dominant mode of SARS-CoV-2 transmission, but N95 masks should provide some protection against both (Jefferson et al., 2009; Leung et al., 2020).

    SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) by the numbers
     
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  2. JonC

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    People forget that these masks provide protection (PF10) for alpha particles (3.6 fremi). Granted, not much protection BUT if they provide some protection for particles that are .00000000036 um then they provide even more protection for viruses that are .1 um.
     
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    Initially, there was limited evidence to support broad masking policies for the general public, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommended masks only for those infected and medical providers treating them. On April 3, 2020, the CDC reversed course and recommended that everyone wear face coverings in public, citing new data that showed a "significant portion" of people infected with the coronavirus lack symptoms but can spread the virus to others...



    In reviewing our work on masking, we have found that false and misleading claims about face masks tend to fall into four categories of misinformation: distortions of science, misrepresentation of government guidance, claims that mask-wearing has been proven to be ineffective and claims that mask-wearing increases your health risk.

    There is some overlap of categories. For example, claims that distort scientific research do so to conclude, incorrectly, that masks have proven to be ineffective or even dangerous.

    Below we summarize some of our work over the past 16 months, based on the categories of misinformation about masking.

    Fact Check: Debunking misinformation about face masks
     
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    But we need to keep in mind many people have a hard - if not an impossible time wearing a mask
    I am one of those - I hyperventilate. Can not tolerate one for more than just a few minutes.
    And I understand that those with asama have similar problems.

    Are there others out there who have trouble breathing with a mask?
     
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    I agree, @Salty . But that is not the role of the CDC.

    The safe thing to do with ionizing radiation is to avoid it. But I work in a radioactive area, so other measures are used not to prevent But minimize exposure.

    Masks are effective. They work. But not everyone can wear them and provisions need to be made.

    It took me forever to find a mask I could wear without almost passing out. They claim this mask is better than most, but I doubt it as I can breathe in it.

    And for every policy there are exceptions to policies.
     
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    But many times the Feds do things that are not in their jurisdiction.

    They can and often are - but on the other hand they are not perfect - thus no guarantee
    % wise - it usually is the best choice.

    Fully agree - seems like any other disability - provision are made, but this disability
    appears to be politically incorrect. In addition, many will not look at the facts -
    only at the demands of the govt and others.
     
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    I agree about the Feds. I'm just saying we have known for years that masks, handwashing, and social distancing are effective tools to protect against the spread of respiratory viruses.

    I'm not advocating for a mask policy. I do not mind companies requiring unvaccinated people wear masks because the science has shown they are more apt to spread covid. But I do not think the federal government should mandate masks - or vacvines - outside of their authority.
     
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    For the most part I agree with you. I just want to emphasis that they are not 100% effective - agree no govt mandates and I agree that its up to the business as to what policy they want. If its a policy I don't like - I go elsewhere.
     
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    No to mandates.
    How about washing your hands? Cleaning surfaces, keypads, handles, knobs etc.?
    A sneeze can travel up to 25 feet. Coughs up to 8 feet.
    Not to mention, “where have your hands been?”.
    Really? How about that person standing in line in front of you? The gas pump?
    Come on! Germs of all kinds are everywhere on everything.

    Be careful and use common sense.
     
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    I have recently been in buffet reasturants -
    In the Restroom - man has mask on - but walks out without washing his hand.

    I was at a C-store - manger was more concern that I did not have on a mask than the fact
    that there was no soap in the mens room.
     
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    I understand that not all people can wear a mask Salty but I have seen those around with clear face shields in California?... I wear a mask, would a clear face shield work for you and others?... Don't know, just asking, to those who do... Brother Glen:)
     
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    You can also duct tape your mouth and put cotton balls in your nose. I do not know the protection value, but in theory it'd work....I think. :)
     
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    In the distance I think I hear a pathetic rim-shot... Brother Glen:rolleyes:
     
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    Yep. Now show me a study about granny's quilt scraps. That's what 99% of people wear.
     
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    That "shield" is open on three sides - my "face covering" is much better that that shield.
    I hold my covering - so I can also brethe.
     
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    N-95 masks work. There is no science the crap people wear work.
     
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    Thank you for the realistic answer Salty, now I understand!... And Jon have fun with your duct tape!... Brother Glen:Biggrin
     
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    I don't know about quilt scraps. Here most wear P-95 type masks or equivalent (but this is a DOE site). I don't wear masks when I am not at work. At work I wear the shema-97 mask because they are comfortable, I can breathe, and they are approved (and if those 3 are met, I don't really care how good they work).
     
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    If the vax works so good, why y'all wearing masks. Joe lied. The govt lied. You keep following and submitting to liars. You follow habitual liars.
     
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    We are wearing masks because of the unvaccinated. The vaccinated can spread covid but are less likely. We have to wear masks because the unvaccinated matter as well. They are human beings. We also want to decrease our chances of being infected, and cstastically this would be by unvaccinated people.

    Bottom line is the unvaccinated created this problem so who cares if they don't like the solution?

    Like you said, legitimate masks work.
     
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