1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Featured Doctrine, and church membership

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by ntchristian, Oct 1, 2021.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. ntchristian

    ntchristian Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2019
    Messages:
    474
    Likes Received:
    94
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Yeah, I just asked him to do that.

    He thinks he recognizes me, but I know I recognize him. Oh, not him personally, but I recognize the type. I have encountered his type elsewhere -- nasty, pharisaical, accusing without cause. Yes, even my native Orthodoxy had folks like him.
     
  2. ntchristian

    ntchristian Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2019
    Messages:
    474
    Likes Received:
    94
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Amazing. Thank you. Finally, someone who knows early church history and theology!
     
  3. ntchristian

    ntchristian Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2019
    Messages:
    474
    Likes Received:
    94
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    A very intelligent and helpful post.

    And, yes, I regret to see that my question veered into a debate on the validity of PSA, etc. Although, some of the posts that have come as a result of that have been helpful and enlightening.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  4. ntchristian

    ntchristian Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2019
    Messages:
    474
    Likes Received:
    94
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    100% correct and factual!
     
  5. ntchristian

    ntchristian Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2019
    Messages:
    474
    Likes Received:
    94
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Baptism -- I was immersed, but as a baby. Was about to have "believer's baptism" last spring, until Covid hit.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  6. ntchristian

    ntchristian Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2019
    Messages:
    474
    Likes Received:
    94
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Thank you, dear brother. Excellent post!
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  7. ntchristian

    ntchristian Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2019
    Messages:
    474
    Likes Received:
    94
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Thank you for that thought. Now I have to try and consider this sentiment with what some others have said in the opposite direction. This is a crucial decision for me.
     
  8. ntchristian

    ntchristian Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2019
    Messages:
    474
    Likes Received:
    94
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Very good post, thank you very much for sharing your thoughts here. This could be a viable option for me.
     
  9. 37818

    37818 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2018
    Messages:
    15,890
    Likes Received:
    1,236
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Explain how, in what way, Chirst's death of His soul on the behalf of our sins was done as a ransom. Matthew 20:28, 1 Corinthians 15:3, Ezekiel 18:4, Isaiah 53:6, Isaiah 53:9-12.
     
  10. 37818

    37818 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2018
    Messages:
    15,890
    Likes Received:
    1,236
    Faith:
    Baptist
    The term Penal Substitutionary Atonement.
    Penal, relating to, or involving punishment.
    Substitutionary, in place of another.
    Atonement, ransom, propitiation.
     
  11. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    We hold to penal Substitution, while Orthodox do not!
     
  12. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
     
  13. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Only view that allows God to remain Holy and just and also able to freely forgive sinners!
     
  14. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Isaish stated that Messiah would die for the sins and in the behalf of his pwn , how is that not pst?
     
  15. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Jesus experienced being forsaken by the Father while upon that Cross, as He tasted wrath of the father for our sins and for our sales!
     
  16. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    How then is the wrath of God appeased towards lost sinners?
     
  17. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Jesus received in his person the very penalty in judgement all lost sinners will experience!
     
  18. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    The OT sacrificial system affirmed Pst, and so did Jesus and his Apostles in the NT!
     
  19. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    many of us do, but we reject that early church, following the Apostles, did not teach pst!
     
  20. Dave G

    Dave G Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2018
    Messages:
    5,849
    Likes Received:
    1,332
    Faith:
    Baptist
    If you don't mind the advice,
    I recommend that you follow the example of those who believed in the passages I listed in Acts, and do so at your earliest convenience, my friend.

    There's really no pressure and it's not like your eternal relationship with Him depends upon it,
    but from a Scriptural standpoint, it is an outward expression of our identification with Him and one of the first commandments that He gives us* upon our belief on Him for the forgiveness of our sins;

    Plus
    I believe that it functions as part of our outward confession of faith in Him.

    An example of this is here,
    in which the ones who had believed Peter's preaching on the day of Pentecost asked what they should do after they had heard and believed:

    * " Now when they heard [this], they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men [and] brethren, what shall we do?
    38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
    39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God shall call."
    ( Acts of the Apostles 2:37-39 ).

    I wish you well, and may He bless you greatly in both grace and knowledge.:)
     
    • Like Like x 1
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Loading...