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Featured Hebrews... An ancient sermon?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by AustinC, Nov 12, 2021.

  1. AustinC

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    I am doing a bible study in the book of Hebrews. As I study and listen to other sermons, I heard one message that suggests the reason why there is no introduction in the book is that it likely is a sermon that was given by a contemporary of Timothy. Someone there, perhaps Luke, wrote down the sermon and it now is in the canon of scripture.

    I had never heard this before, but the structure and presentation does suggest this as a viable consideration.

    What do you think? Is the book of Hebrews an early recording of a sermon? If you read the entire book, it takes about 45 minutes, which would be a nice length for a sermon.
     
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    This is conjecture. The majority of the early Church fathers said that Paul wrote Hebrews
     
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    Many have stated that was Him, of Barnabas, Apollos, or even Luke !
     
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    Hebrews 13:23
    [lKnow ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty; with whom, if he come shortly, I will see you.

    Clearly Paul's language
     
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    A.W. Pink:

    "...( <580101> HEBREWS 1:1-3) Before taking up the study of the opening verses of our Epistle, let us adduce further evidence that the apostle Paul was the writer of it. To begin with, note its Pauline characteristics. First, a numerical one. There is a striking parallel between his enumeration in Romans 8:35-39 and in Hebrews 12:18-24. In the former he draws up a list of the things which shall not separate the saint from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus. If the reader will count them, he will find they are seventeen in number, but divided into a seven and a ten. The first seven are given in verse 35, the second ten in Hebrews 10:38,39. In Hebrews 12:18-23 he draws a contrast between Mount Sinai and Mount Sion, and he mentions seventeen details, and again the seventeen is divided into a seven and a ten. In Hebrews 10:18,19, he names seven things which the saints are not “come unto”; while in Hebrews 10:22-24 he mentions ten things they have “come unto,” viz., to Mount Sion, the City of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, an innumerable company of angels, the general Assembly, the Church of the Firstborn, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, to Jesus the Mediator, to the Blood of sprinkling. Compare also Galatians 5:19-21, where the apostle, when describing the “works of the flesh,” enumerates seventeen. So far as we are aware, no other Epistle writer of the New Testament used this number seventeen in such a manner.

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    the terms which he used. We single out one only. In Hebrews 2:10 he speaks of the many sons which Christ is bringing to glory. Now Paul is the only New Testament writer that employs the term “sons.” The others used a different Greek word meaning “children.”

    For doctrinal parallelisms compare Romans 8:16, with Hebrews 10:15, and 1 Corinthians 3:13 with Hebrews 5:12-14, and who can doubt that the Holy Spirit used the same penman in both cases?

    Note a devotional correspondency. In Hebrews 13:18, the writer of this Epistle says, “Pray for us.” In his other Epistles we find Paul, more than once, making a similar request; but no other Epistle-writer is placed on record as soliciting prayer!

    Finally, it is to be noted that Timothy was the companion of the writer of this Epistle, see Hebrews 13:23. We know of no hint anywhere that Timothy was the fellow-worker of anyone else but the apostle Paul: that he companied with him is clear from 2 Corinthians 1:1, Colossians 1:1, 1 Thessalonians 3:1,2...."

     
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    "...In addition to the many Pauline characteristics stamped on this Epistle, we may further observe that it was written by one who had been in “bonds” (see Hebrews 10:34); by one who was now sundered from Jewish believers ( Hebrews 13:19) — would not this indicate that Paul wrote this Epistle while in his hired house in Rome ( Acts 28:30)? Again; here is a striking fact, which will have more force with some readers than others: if the Epistle to the Hebrews was not written by the apostle Paul, then the New Testament contains only thirteen Epistles from his pen — a number which, in Scripture, is ever associated with evil! But if Hebrews was also written by him, this brings the total number of his Epistles to fourteen, i.e., 7 x 2 — seven being the number of perfection and two of witness. Thus, a perfect witness was given by this beloved servant of the Lord to Jew and Gentile!

    In the last place, there is one other evidence that the apostle Paul penned the Hebrews’ Epistle which is still more conclusive. In 2 Thessalonians 3:17,18 we read, “The salutation of Paul with mine own hand, which is the token in every Epistle, so I write, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all.Now, if the reader will turn to the closing verse of each of the first thirteen Epistles of this apostle, it will be found that this “token” is given in each one. Then, if he will refer to the close of the Epistles of James, Peter, John and Jude, he will discover a noticeable absence of it. Thus it was a distinctive “token” of the apostle Paul. It served to identify his writings.

    When, then at the close of Hebrews we read “grace be with you all” the proof is conclusive and complete that none other than Paul’s hand originally wrote this Epistle.

    Ere passing from this point a word should be added concerning the distinctive suitability of Paul as the penman of this Epistle. In our little work “Why Four Gospels” (pages 20-22), we have called attention to the wisdom of God displayed in the selection of the four men He employed to write the Gospels. In each one we may clearly perceive a special personal fitness for the task before him. Thus it is here. All through the Epistle of Hebrews Christ is presented as the glorified One in Heaven. Now, it was there the apostle Paul first saw the Lord ( Acts 26:19); who, then, was so well suited, so experimentally equipped, to present to the Hebrews the rejected Messiah at God’s right hand! He had seen Him there; and with the exceptions of Stephen, and later, John of Patmos, he was the only one who had or has!...."
     
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    Pink did get some things right :Biggrin
     
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    MANY conservative Christians do not think that he actually wrote it though!
     
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    History is more important than our opinions!
     
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    No other early Christian writer had such a deep grasp of the LXX than Paul
     
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    While it may be plausible that Paul might have written it. But, Hebrews 2:3, reads, ". . . salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; . . . " The Apostle Paul is one who both saw the resurrected Christ and heard Him.
     
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    The quotes from the OT in Paul's other Epistles are very much as the style of Hebrews
     
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    Could have been Barnabas or Apollos
     
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    Speculation
     
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    Indeed, as the author seems to be implying that he was not among the Apostles of the Lord Jesus group!
     
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    So is paul as author!
     
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    I suggest that you check the OT quotes in Romans and Galatians and compare them with Hebrews and then share your conclusions
     
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    Some think that it was the theology of Paul actually recorded down for us by Luke!
     
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    The writer of Hebrews refers to Timothy, Hebrews 13:23, ". . . Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty; with whom, if he come shortly, I will see you. . . ."
    The 1611 end note gives Timothy as the one writing for Paul, "Written to the Hebrews from Italy, by Timothy."
     
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    Yeah and some think the world is flat :Biggrin
     
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