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The War on Ivermectin & other things

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  1. Wingman68

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    Partial interview between Dr.Mercola & Dr.Kory:

    COVID Really Revealed the Level of Corruption in Science


    During our conversation, the issue of medical journals came up, and their role in the corruption of science. Kory notes:

    “That's the other transformation that Paul [Marik] and I have undergone. We really looked to those journals thinking they were the most sophisticated and that was the top levels of science. But seeing what was published in those journals throughout COVID uncovered the absolute control by the pharmaceutical industry.

    I mean, what appears in those journals is what they allow to appear in those journals. Period. I know of many positive studies of repurposed drugs rejected. We've seen them pull the following — JAMA and The New England Journal both — where instead of rejecting [the paper] they hold onto it as if they're considering it, and then the rejection comes months later.

    I've never heard of that in my career. Usually, when I've tried to submit manuscripts, they either say, ‘This is interesting. We're sending it out for peer review,’ or they say, ‘This is not of sufficient interest to our readership at this time.’

    They rejected positive trials of ivermectin. And then, probably the greatest and most saddening corruption that they pulled, is that they published the Together trial on ivermectin, which is so brazenly fraudulent and corrupt.

    There are so many documented actions those investigators took in order to ensure they did not have a statistically significant benefit for ivermectin. Yet the New England Journal of Medicine published it. When you look at the design and the conduct of the trial, it should never be published. It was brazenly corrupt.

    The investigators were all working for either their own companies or other companies whose sole job was to do research contracts for pharmaceutical companies. I mean, what would happen in their careers had they published a positive trial on ivermectin? That's it. Bye. No more contracts.”

    The War on Ivermectin
    According to Kory, the idea for “The War on Ivermectin” was birthed after reading an article titled “The Disinformation Playbook,”1 published by the Union for Concerned Scientists. He explains:

    “What happened is that after my ivermectin testimony2 [December 8, 2020, before Sen. Ron Johnson], which went viral and brought a lot of attention to the FLCCC ... our protocols were looked in to. Doctors started prescribing ivermectin.

    And I thought — this is how naive I was — I literally thought that we were providing a major intervention that would alter the trajectory of the pandemic, without question. It would reduce cases, hospitalizations and deaths, and now you have an effective early outpatient treatment. And I thought that news would be welcomed.

    I thought the FLCCC would come out as heroes. It was really Paul who identified the data signal first. He said, ‘Wow. You got to see what these studies are starting to show.’ I jumped in right behind him. I was the first author of that comprehensive review paper.

    I worked a lot and I got deeply expert on ivermectin. But what happened in the next few months is that everything started going sideways, and I could not figure it out. I saw hit pieces. To you, this is not news. You're probably like, ‘Yep. I've seen that before.’

    The thing is, I didn't know. I didn't know that what I was really doing — bringing forth data supporting the efficacy of a generic drug — that is poking the bear. And when I say poking the bear, what is anathema to the pharmaceutical industry and their whole business model is they cannot have generic off-patent drugs become standard of care. It obliterates the market for their pricing new pills.

    I didn't know I was stepping into a war. In the history of pharma, I don't think any single medicine threatened as many [drug] markets and campaigns. The only other medicine that did that was hydroxychloroquine, but they already killed hydroxychloroquine in 2020.

    I was coming out now with ivermectin, and it threatened hundreds of billions of dollars in perpetuity for these insanely lethal vaccines, monoclonal antibodies, remdesivir, paxlovid, molnupiravir — all of the markets for their novel new pills to enter. I mean, I don't think any medicine has ever threatened that much of a market.

    So, we were getting attacked. I did an interview with the Associated Press and the article that came out, I mean, I almost had a heart attack [reading it]. I saw unending attacks on ivermectin and it was coming in different directions. I saw academia getting all hot and bothered.

    ‘It's a fringe medicine. It's unproven. The trials are small.’ I saw all these narratives and I didn't know they were narratives at the time. I thought people were being stupid ... Now, I see everything. I see everything they do now, even before they do it, because they're really predictable.”

    The Disinformation Playbook
    The turning point came when Kory received a two-line email from Dr. William B. Grant (who also co-wrote my review paper3 on vitamin D for COVID prevention). The email said, "Dr. Kory, what they're doing to ivermectin is what they've done to vitamin D for decades." Attached was a link to The Disinformation Playbook article.4

    “It’s a short article. It's very well-designed. They have little diagrams and then they have examples of disinformation campaigns. They describe the five plays, which they name after American football plays. And these are the tactics that pharma used. I read the article and I was like, ‘Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.’

    Suddenly, the world made sense — and not in a good way. It was very ugly, because I was like, ‘That's what's going on. There's a massive disinformation campaign directed at ivermectin.’ From that moment on, everything that happened, every day, it was almost like I got tied to a front row seat for a horror movie. I’ve had to watch a horror movie unfold ever since.

    Millions dying, hospitals overflowing. And there’s a drug that could prevent that. It could avert catastrophe. It would've definitely either put the brakes on or stopped the vaccine campaign obsession, which is in my mind, is one of history's greatest humanitarian catastrophes.

    It's a holocaust out there with these vaccines. That's easily proven from immense sources of data now, from life insurance data, disability data, excess mortality data. Now we’re even seeing birth rates dropping.

    So, the theme of the book is centered around that. It's my experiences and knowledge of what they do ... It's almost like a teacher's manual, because I saw everything they pulled, how they did it and how successful they were — the fire plays, the blitz, harass the scientists that come out with inconvenient science, the diversion, inject doubt where there is none.”


     
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    Timestamp

    10/2/2022
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    Your story text

    I have staffed the same community hospital ER since 2008, and we noticed a disturbing new trend about two years ago: a significantly increased incidence of “syncope”/falls, especially among elderly (used to see 20/month, now up to 70+/month, often with brain injury). I never used to see people younger than 50 with unexplained syncope, fall, or arrest…perhaps just one case over the 10 prior years? Now I see them regularly. We always ask vaccination status in these cases, and all have been vaccinated with an mRNA product. Another disturbing trend has been an increase in sudden arrhythmia, heart attack, and stroke following vaccination. Again, we used to see perhaps 5-7 cases per month prior to COVID, but now we see 20-30 per month. An interesting finding amongst my patients having MI has been lack of a discrete lesion on heart cath, despite obvious ST-elevation MI with elevated cardiac enzymes. Also disturbing has been the increase in intracranial thrombosus, DVT, PE, and POTS syndrome. We are a small hospital system, with a pool of eight ER MD’s and 12 ER RN’s. Of our 12 ER RN’s, two of them were vaccinated yet died of COVID from July-September of 2021. None of our vaccinated MD/RNs died, or were hospitalized due to COVID. One of our vaccinated physicians developed Guillain-Barre and was on leave for several months as he completed rehab. The vaccine had seriously negative, obvious injurious effects in my hospital system (without offering ANY protection), yet we were threatened against “speaking out about it”.

    The war has been played with a stacked deck. The House (aka holders of money & power) wins, otherwise they may lose the House. They can’t afford the truth, so they intimidate & mandate the lie. Now they sacrifice children to keep it going. Who is that low, to sacrifice children? I pray none on this forum. Testimonials coming in daily:

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    This thread is one massive case of disinformation, which makes it incredibly ironic.
     
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    My mother has COVID. Was taking the antivirals that her Doc prescribed. Getting worse.Would not get out of bed. Took a "loading dose" of Ivermectin and fever broke in 2 hrs. Doing yard work the next day.
     
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    STORY AT-A-GLANCE
    • The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has publicly warned that COVID is one of the Top 10 causes of death in children aged 5 to 11, yet when asked to produce the data, they admitted they never conducted an analysis for that age group
    • The CDC has also lied about Pfizer’s study results. While claiming the Pfizer jab was 92% effective for those with previous COVID infection, the actual trial data found NO evidence of efficacy in those with previous infection
    • In July 2021, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration quietly disclosed finding an increase in four types of serious adverse events in elderly people who received Pfizer’s COVID jab: acute myocardial infarction, disseminated intravascular coagulation, immune thrombocytopenia, and pulmonary embolism. However, more than a year later, that study still has not been published
    • The FDA is also hiding other studies. Buried inside a study protocol, the FDA discusses findings from an unpublished “cohort study of the third dose safety in the Medicare population where historical controls were used.” In that Medicare study the FDA found a significant risk for immune thrombocytopenia and acute myocardial infarction among those with prior COVID-19 diagnosis, as well as an increased risk of Bell’s palsy and pulmonary embolism in general
    • Analysis of the CDC’s Mortality and Morbidity Weekly Reports (MMWR) reveals the CDC is systematically (and automatically) hiding jab-related deaths, particularly in categories like cancer, cardiac deaths and strokes, to make the shots appear unrelated to excess deaths
    How the FDA and CDC Are Hiding COVID Jab Dangers
     
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    ClinicalTrials.gov
    Search of: ivermectin and COVID-19


    88 Worldwide Clinical Trials - many have been completed

    Ivermectin is available through Amazon
    Generally used with large farm animals
    It can be used in much smaller amounts to treat Sarcoptic mange in the Red Fox population.

    Personally I wouldn't use it on myself!

    Rob
     
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    What Is Ivermectin?
    Written by Evan Starkman
    Medically Reviewed by Neha Pathak, MD on August 23, 2021
    What Conditions Does Ivermectin Treat?

    Ivermectin is a medication that treats some parasitic diseases. There are two types of the medication. Doctors prescribe one kind for certain health conditions in people

    What Is Ivermectin?


    This propaganda that Ivermectin given to adults is the same thing given to animals is false. There are those on this board who have been demonizing it based on this intentionally false claim.
     
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    Good morning General!

    To everyone else, never mind the salutation, just a joke between friends.
     
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    Do a search……the links that are ‘enabled’ & not ‘broken’ will parrot the desired message. False science, bogus, dubious, for animals………

    Then there’s this…… in addition to being anti-parasitic, it is also anti-viral, & now it may be anti-cancer. I have taken it numerous times over the last couple of years, whenever I had viral symptoms. It always resolved within a day or two, with NO other side effects. Many have been so happy with it they are taking it prophylactically every few months. Here’s the study:


    Ivermectin, a potential anticancer drug derived from an antiparasitic drug
    Recently, ivermectin has been reported to inhibit the proliferation of several tumor cells by regulating multiple signaling pathways. This suggests that ivermectin may be an anticancer drug with great potential. Here, we reviewed the related mechanisms by which ivermectin inhibited the development of different cancers and promoted programmed cell death and discussed the prospects for the clinical application of ivermectin as an anticancer drug for neoplasm therapy.
     
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    According to this article, Ivermectin already had a solid reputation for extremely effective use in combatting certain parasitic infections in humans. Its off-label use was made acceptable in 1996 via FDA approval. There were many reports of its effective use in combatting COVID-19.

    What stands out are the extremely biased, powerful political and economic forces aimed at preventing its use for COVID-19, despite prior FDA approval and an NIH neutral stance. Following the changing “science” would make one’s head spin.

    From the article:

    Ivermectin made its name through its significant benefits in treating parasitic infections.


    Yet using the FDA’s statement against ivermectin to ban its use in COVID-19 cases would be considered an overreach. Since the FDA approved ivermectin in 1996, this made the drug acceptable for off-label use.

    “The fact that it’s not FDA approved for COVID is irrelevant because the FDA endorses the use of off-label drugs at the clinician’s discretion,” said Marik.


    The NIH also discouraged the use of ivermectin, albeit briefly. On Jan. 14, 2021, the NIH changed its statement, writing that there was no evidence to recommend or disapprove the use of ivermectin. However, in April 2022, the statement changed to strongly disapproving of using ivermectin.


    Some doctors say that if ivermectin’s use for COVID had been approved, it would have made the EUAs for vaccines and remdesivir null and void.​

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/ivermectin-overview_4854366.html?src_src=News&src_cmp=breaking-2022-11-21-1&est=z+TvIPpAMv6EQ6LbND4zYiIXFRuFn/gCC5bZ5P3MSm29SQ1l6W5G6pW9+EQQQXCw
     
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    I think the issue was more with people taking veterinary ivermectin. Some claimed to purchase it from animal supply sources to take themselves or have on hand.

    Doctors should use what is avaliable to treat their patients.

    Unfortunately doctors often are at the mercy of hospital administrators who limit medications. I once went to a doctor who apologized that he could not use one medicine because the owners of the practice preferred one pharmaceutical company (he was planning on starting an independent practice for that reason).

    My view is it should be the patients informed decision (provided it is an ethical treatment).
     
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