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salvation during the tribulation (pre-trib rapture)

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by webdog, Dec 28, 2005.

  1. JamesBell

    JamesBell New Member

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    To answer the OP, as I read the Bible, I don't see any conditions placed upon God's promises. In other words, John 3:16 does not read:

    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, before the rapture, should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    1 Thessalonians 5:9 does not read
    For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, as long as we believe before the rapture.

    So, it is ridiculous to believe that salvation will not be available to those after the rapture.
     
  2. OldRegular

    OldRegular Well-Known Member

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    Contrary to what some think about the End Times there will be no series of complicated and unBiblical events like
    1.a pretrib rapture,
    2.a seven year tribulation where no one knows what goes on and has to ask how people are saved,
    3.no millennial reign by the Glorified God the Son on a fallen earth where Saints in glorified bodies intermingle with sinful mortals.

    Actually when the Lord returns for His Church there will be a resurrection of all the dead both the saved and the lost followed by the Great White Throne Judgment and the creation of a new heavens and earth.
     
  3. Ed Edwards

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    Genesis12: //IF we disagree then it is obvious that one of us, both
    of us, or several of us, is not operating with spiritual discernment.
    Perhaps one or both or several of us is out of fellowship
    with God through Jesus Christ in the power of the Holy Spirit.//

    Without Charity (1 Cor 13) this is but a cruel cudgel
    used to beat those falsely judged. (Matthew 7:1-2).
    So while the statement is probably true, it's truth helps
    nobody.

    I know whole denominations that consider the
    internet one of the most demonic of all the TV uses
    and they withhold using the internet.
    They won't enter this debate.

    I request as a friendly member that this topic
    is for those who believe in a pre-trib rapture.
    People who do not beleive in a pre-trib rapture are
    welcome to participate in this topic:
    http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/3/3314.html

    For those who just like to debate pretrib/anti-pretrib
    feel free to post at:
    http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/3/3273/9.html
    there we debate pretrib rapture or not around the clock.
     
  4. Ed Edwards

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    JamesBell: //So, it is ridiculous to believe that salvation will not be available to those after the rapture.//

    Amen. To bad that proves people CAN be saved after the
    pretribulation Rapture.
    We were discussing WILL gentiles believe God raised Jesus
    from the dead after the Rapture and call Him Lord?
     
  5. genesis12

    genesis12 Member

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    The gospel according to Ed:

    //Without Charity (1 Cor 13) this is but a cruel cudgel used to beat those falsely judged. (Matthew 7:1-2). So while the statement is probably true, it's truth helps nobody.//


    Huh? :confused: You wanna take another stab at that?
     
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